New Street Drag Racing Law in Florida - Allows Confiscation!

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Florida Passes Car Confiscation Legislation
Police in Florida can seize cars used in racing without a hearing or due process.

Yesterday the Florida Senate unanimously approved legislation that would increase the fines for "drag racing" and give police the power to seize automobiles used in races. As the House passed the measure on Monday by a vote of 111-1, the measure will now go to Governor Jeb Bush for his signature.

State Representative John Quinones (R-Kissimmee) introduced the bill following drag racing accidents that claimed four lives last year. The legislation provides maximum penalties including a $1000 fine, two-year license suspension and imprisonment for violators. The police can also immediately seize a car used in a race for 10 days without due process for the first offense. On the second offense, police can seize and sell the car used, regardless of its value.

The legislation only defines drag racing as comparing the speed or power of one vehicle to another vehicle on a public road or in a parking lot, "at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other." The penalties apply regardless of whether anyone was actually harmed or threatened with harm from such a contest.

Article Excerpt:
HB 71, Engrossed 2005
FLORIDA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

A bill to be entitled
An act relating to motor vehicle speed competitions; amending s. 316.191, F.S.; defining the term "conviction"; specifying that the section applies to motor vehicles; revising penalties for violation of prohibitions against described motor vehicle speed competitions; providing for impoundment of vehicles used in violation of motor vehicle speed competition provisions; providing for application of the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act; providing an effective date.

Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:

Section 1. Section 316.191, Florida Statutes, is amended to read:
316.191 Racing on highways.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) "Conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld.
(b) "Drag race" means the operation of two or more motor vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other, or the operation of one or more motor vehicles over a common selected course, from the same point to the same point, for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of such motor vehicle or motor vehicles within a certain distance or time limit.
(c) "Racing" means the use of one or more motor vehicles in an attempt to outgain or, outdistance another motor vehicle, to or prevent another motor vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another motor vehicle or motor vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes.
(2)(a) A person may not:
1. Drive any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, in any race; speed competition or contest; drag race or acceleration contest; test of physical endurance, or; exhibition of speed or acceleration; or for the purpose of making a speed record on any highway, roadway, or parking lot;
2. In any manner participate in, coordinate, facilitate, or collect moneys at any location for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition;
3. Knowingly ride as a passenger in any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition; or
4. Purposefully cause the movement of traffic to slow or stop for, any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition.

Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000, and the department shall revoke the driver license of a person so convicted for 1 year. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

(b) Any person who violates paragraph (a) within 5 years after the date of a prior violation that resulted in a conviction for a violation of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. The department shall also revoke the driver license of that person for 2 years. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.
(c) In any case charging a violation of paragraph (a), the court shall be provided a copy of the driving record of the person charged and may obtain any records from any other source to determine if one or more prior convictions of the person for violation of paragraph (a) have occurred within 5 years prior to the charged offense.
(3) Whenever a law enforcement officer determines that a person was engaged in a drag race or race, as described in subsection (1), the officer may immediately arrest and take such person into custody. The court may enter an order of impoundment or immobilization as a condition of incarceration or probation. Within 7 business days after the date the court issues the order of impoundment or immobilization, the clerk of the court must send notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the registered owner of the motor vehicle, if the registered owner is a person other than the defendant, and to each person of record claiming a lien against the motor vehicle.
(a) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the impounding agency shall release a motor vehicle under the conditions provided in s. 316.193(6)(e), (f), (g), and (h), if the owner or agent presents a valid driver license at the time of pickup of the motor vehicle.
(b) All costs and fees for the impoundment or immobilization, including the cost of notification, must be paid by the owner of the motor vehicle or, if the motor vehicle is leased or rented, by the person leasing or renting the motor vehicle, unless the impoundment or immobilization order is dismissed. All provisions of s. 713.78 shall apply.
(c) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) may be impounded for a period of 10 business days if a law enforcement officer has arrested and taken a person into custody pursuant to this subsection and the person being arrested is the registered owner or coowner of the motor vehicle. If the arresting officer finds that the criteria of this paragraph are met, the officer may immediately impound the motor vehicle. The law enforcement officer shall notify the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles of any impoundment for violation of this subsection in accordance with procedures established by the department. The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) shall be applicable to such impoundment.
(4) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) by any person within 5 years after the date of a prior conviction of that person for a violation under subsection (2) may be seized and forfeited as provided by the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act. This subsection shall only be applicable if the owner of the motor vehicle is the person charged with violation of subsection (2).
(5) This section does not apply to licensed or duly authorized racetracks, drag strips, or other designated areas set aside by proper authorities for such purposes.

Section 2. This act shall take effect October 1, 2005.
 

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4 people?...

Just 4 people?

COME ON, GIVE ME A BREAK!

Don't get me wrong... I'm sorry someone died (4) but I think more people die every year from falling off ladders or riding bicycles or swimming or choaking on fast food or snake bits or OLD PEOPLE THAT CAN'T DRIVE ANYMORE! :dw:
 

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Motor Vehicle Crash Fatalities by State
(format: State, 1999, 2000, % Change)

Florida 2,920 2,999 +2.7%

given those figures, that means that Drag Racing Fatalities make up only about .13% of the total fatalities in the state of Florida

and

An average of 114 people die each day in car crashes in the U.S.

Seems to me they should be looking at something else other than drag racing
 
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dougwg said:
...SNIP...or OLD PEOPLE THAT CAN'T DRIVE ANYMORE! :dw:
The politicians in Florida sure ain't gonna touch that one!! :nonono: :nono:

Blue hair drivers do way more damage than isolated street racing...but it isnt politically correct to mess with seniors (who cast large blocks of votes)...hmmmm...ya think there's a correlation?? :dw:
 

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Gay! I wonder how many people were killed by drunk drivers? Yet they still have their cars and get to drive!
 

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The politicians in Florida sure ain't gonna touch that one!! :nonono: :nono:

Blue hair drivers do way more damage than isolated street racing...but it isnt politically correct to mess with seniors (who cast large blocks of votes)...hmmmm...ya think there's a correlation?? :dw:

yeah, just saw a news bit on TV last night about a Q-tip that lost control of his car and ran over another cotton head in a parking lot in Westland 2 weeks ago
 

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this is a do-good, feel-good law passed by people who shouldn't be in the position they are in. protecting us from ourselves.
 

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My main problem is how much power is shifted to the cops and the system. Look how loosely racing is defined. Confiscation without due process is just wrong. Confiscation is just wrong period.
 

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I'm not in agreement with the proposed law, but I do think there needs to be stronger laws against street racing. The truth is that the racing discussed amongst Mustang owners is probably a fraction of what goes on within the import crowd. IMO street racing of any type doesn't belong on public roads. I've always said the place for racing is at a track. Nobody thinks the public is in danger until it happens. Be safe. But that's JMO.
 

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CobraBob said:
I'm not in agreement with the proposed law, but I do think there needs to be stronger laws against street racing. The truth is that the racing discussed amongst Mustang owners is probably a fraction of what goes on within the import crowd. IMO street racing of any type doesn't belong on public roads. I've always said the place for racing is at a track. Nobody thinks the public is in danger until it happens. Be safe. But that's JMO.



^^^^Agree 100%



One of my biggest grips about FL is the older drivers and tourist :cuss: They are everywhere and are awful! I would think they try and work on that first....but like said before( they won't dare touch that)
 

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CobraBob said:
I'm not in agreement with the proposed law, but I do think there needs to be stronger laws against street racing. The truth is that the racing discussed amongst Mustang owners is probably a fraction of what goes on within the import crowd. IMO street racing of any type doesn't belong on public roads. I've always said the place for racing is at a track. Nobody thinks the public is in danger until it happens. Be safe. But that's JMO.

I don't street race and I'm not in favor of it. But now a cop thinks you accelerated too quickly from a stoplight and he can call it exhibition of speed and they get the ball rolling on taking your car. Or someone with a loud exhaust next to you guns it from a light and the cops says you were drag racing him. Just way too much lattitude for the cops.
 

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Unbelivable....
There goes my weekend fun, might as well sell my car and buy a Honda :cuss:

But on a serious note I mean they go for the "easy stuff" like if they make a law against street racing then noone will argue against it; but if they do a law making evetyone over 65 to retake a driving test then you'd have half the damn state complaining about it... I'm really thinking about moving away from here. Not because of this but becausr the way the whole southern part of Florida is becoming. I mean with the HEAT and the old people and the INSANE cost of real estate its to much. Tamps and north is the place to be.
 

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the problem is racing is so horribly defined. If you're trying to merge, and some jackass won't let you in, and another jackass is tailgating you so you can't hit the brakes safetly (it happens a LOT in Florida), and you gun it to merge, you just fit the definition of racing.

**** that.
 

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SVTCobra96 said:
the problem is racing is so horribly defined. If you're trying to merge, and some jackass won't let you in, and another jackass is tailgating you so you can't hit the brakes safetly (it happens a LOT in Florida), and you gun it to merge, you just fit the definition of racing.

**** that.


Good point.
 

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I don't street race and I'm not in favor of it. But now a cop thinks you accelerated too quickly from a stoplight and he can call it exhibition of speed and they get the ball rolling on taking your car. Or someone with a loud exhaust next to you guns it from a light and the cops says you were drag racing him. Just way too much lattitude for the cops.

So true! I really don't understand why the crackdown on the streetracers. Yes 4 fatalities is too many. But in 2003 Florida was #3 in the nation in alcohol related traffic deaths! That's 1274 or 40% of all traffic deaths in the state. But who are they really after? :bs:
 

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SVTCobra96 said:
the problem is racing is so horribly defined. If you're trying to merge, and some jackass won't let you in, and another jackass is tailgating you so you can't hit the brakes safetly (it happens a LOT in Florida), and you gun it to merge, you just fit the definition of racing.

**** that.

Your deadnuts on. The call is left to the officers discretion. The interpretation of street racing laws in most states are vague to say the least. I received an exhibition of speed ticket 5 yrs ago in my 99 TA. The officer never saw my car|myself commit the violation. That was just his assessment, because the TA sounded like a race car :cuss: The officer stated he heard my car and never saw it in court, he was running radar on parallel street...I assume??? For the record I did have SLP longtubes, no cats and borla catback, so yes it was ****ing loud car....shame on me..I lost RR in city court and appealed the case, it ended going to Georgetown|Williamson county court where I won :beer:
 

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This whole thing is unfolding like it is cause god damn soccer moms everywhere are up in arms over "those damn teenagers street racing!". Yet those fatass bitches can yap away to Susy on their cellphones about how little Timmy dropped the watermelon on jackie's foot and then jack the dog came and licked her toes and jackie screamed and threw her glass of lemonade at the wall and broke the picture frame on top of the GOD DAMN PIANO, all while driving in a SUV that almost weighs as much as them on a busy highway.

To them, and all parties --mostly legislation-- involved in this bullshit crackdown on street racing. I have a big **** YOU to tell you to your face if you so desire.

And to all cops who will use this bullshit law to **** people over, **** you as well. "I heard you exhaust! YOU WERE RACING!!! AWAY WITH YOU!!!!" **** that. I sure am glad I'm slowly losing my right to drive a 8 cylinder muscle car.

It really wouldn't be so bad if the damn law wasn't so vague. I agree with the guy who said someone will challenge this all the way and win, eventually.
 
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