Repost, but good vid
One angry Marine......team America, **** YEAH!!!
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Saw that vid long ago.
That is frustration and anger IMO, not motivation. I totally understand the utter frustration and sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns. But motivational? I don't think so. That said....GO ARMY!! :rockon:
Are you serious?:lol1: I guess the Marines have grown soft since I got out in 03. I have seen far worse ass chewings from Company Gunny's and First Sergeants than this sweet talk with a few expletives thrown in there during my time in the Marines. Hell our Drill Instructors were 10 times worse.
He is motivating them. You can motivate someone in various ways. He is telling those people to un**** themselves, do their damn job and to stand up for themselves.
and stand up for their country
i'm sure he tried motivational speech A, B and C and they're not listening. maybe the guy just wants to go home and see his family in one piece.
I'm sorry, did it appear that I was joking? Hate to break it to you, but without being in that formation and knowing those men, you don't have a flying ****ing clue if they were motivated or not. You should know that.
The Marine Corp has grown soft. And it will continue to do so. Just the way things go right now. That doesn't necessarily mean ass chewings have gone away, but it doesn't mean they aren't professional anymore, either. Perhaps you missed it, but those drill instructors of yours were professional. They were trying to teach you how to be a leader, even of piss poor comrades like those Iraqi's. One other thing that won't change is the 10% that slip through the cracks, just like that Army dog, and just like you. Unfortunately, I know you understand what I'm talking about.
And neither were you. How do you know that his Soldiers were not getting killed or coming under attack more because those Iraqi's failed to do their job. How do you know if he has lost Soldiers because some of those Iraqi's while in that formation are more loyal to the insurgency than their fellow policemen? Maybe he is tired of being shot up and dealing with IED's and is tired of them not doing their job and has tried every other motivating speech.
You don't, so STFU and do not criticize the guy whose job is to train the very people who also support the insurgency and be the same person that puts two in your chest! I am not debating they were motivated or not. I am simply stating that motivation comes in many forms to attempt a person to do better and guess what? Sometimes it comes in the form of an ass chewing.
During my time in the military, I have seen my Team Leader, Squad Leader, Platoon Sergeant, Company Guns and 1stSgt give out the same ass chewings. Some had worse content and some had less.
Most ass chewings are and never were professional. Counselings are, but sometimes ass chewings are needed. You are so contradictory it is not funny. Marine Drill Instructors are professional and the guy in the OP's video is not? Here tell me if this is professional
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoeGvn6MAY"]YouTube - Drill Instructor Ambush[/nomedia]
Tell me what the difference is between what a Drill Instructor does and what that Soldier was doing, both of whom train individuals? Tell me where in that the DI's were teaching that kid to be a leader? They weren't. He was being verbally corrected for not acknowledging that Marine and giving the greeting of the day.
Look I am not downing Drill Instructors as i know very well what they go through. They have a tough job of taking that undisciplined civilian and molding them into a basically trained Marine. However, there is a difference between what a DI gets to work with and what that Soldier in the video has to work with. A DI does not get a foreign national whose background and loyalty can not be verified and they do not have to train in a combat zone and go into combat together.
Now I will address one last thing that is in bold. I love how you refer to me being the 10% when you have absolutely no clue as to what I did for my time in the Military. My successful B billet, promotions, job assignments, Top Secret clearance, and my FitReps say otherwise so **** off.:lol1: Just shows that you don't know anything but diarrhea of the mouth. I won't criticize your SRB, because there is no need to. I guess that makes you as bad as the guy in the video eh?
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That's your reasoning for being unprofessional? You must not understand the very meaning of the term, no one said it's easy.
Sure you are, right here...
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No one is debating that. Maybe you haven't understood the thread, but it's his lack of professionalism that's being questioned.
The difference is one is real and one is a joke, using a hidden camera belonging to one of those DI's, I'm assuming. I certainly never saw any nonsense camera's like that, though.
Them being professional in yelling at that recruit like that is debatable, filming it and maybe showing it off to their buddies is not. There's going to be some verbal correction anytime you don't give the proper greeting of the day. Duh.
Just in case you forgot, you brought up drill instructors. Not me.
Job well done. :rollseyes
An oldie but a goodie, too bad motivational speeches don't work on those people, they are and always be helpless in my opinion... Soon as we leave Iraq will be open season to Iran.
Or back to Korea.
Did anyone read the news article yesterday where ours guys were training some Afghans and one opened fired and I think killed 6 of our troops? Supposedly a Taliban militant who got a uniform. There is no point wasting our time with these people. They are going to **** it ALL up once we leave. Shit is so unbalanced that these people are too easily bribed by corruption that it's a waste of time.
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