Radar Detector...really worth it?

[jean]

Tuesday night, i drove 50 miles going outside of Porland ,i encounter 5 law officer:
2 with laser in Intersate
1 with KA inregular road
2 K-band near my town, near school.
In oregon the speed limit in front of a school is 20 miles All the time,a lot of children at 3 am in the morning and the police is seatting there giving tickets!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lawman85]

Originally posted by jean
The insurance company lose money with the stolen car market(to be resold in south america or eastern europe,story by 20/20)
not with accident on the road.And the way the insurance company get back :they give money to private donation to corporation who buy equipment to donate to the police.who catch you for speeding who increase your insurance rates,nice loop indeed!

You've got to be kidding me. I work 100 times more wrecks than stolen cars. If each wreck has a total of $3000 dollars worth of damage (which is a low number on new cars), then the wrecks would account for more money from insurance companies. In about 95% of wrecks that are caused by speed, the cars are totaled, which is the same as them being stolen.

I would definately insure with a company that was giving me equipment to catch bad guys.

Hey, hooked on phonics worked for my 5 year old, give it a try.

 

[gnxs]

Originally posted by Lawman85
Hey, hooked on phonics worked for my 5 year old, give it a try.

You know I always tread lightly in this forum and I see many instances where us "citizens" lash out against the LEOs unfairly. However, this guy was just giving his opinion (albeit somewhat incoherently) with no malice and you respond with your quote above. :shrug:

mswaim,

I understand all your points about speed. Do you suggest our interstates all impose 40 mph speed limits?

I think many of us just want to be free of artificially low speed limits that serve no purpose other than to generate revenue for municipalities.

When I'm on stretches of road (interstate) where EVERY car is going 65+ mph (usually 75+) EVERY time I drive there, yet the limit is posted at 55mph, I have trouble with that. Contrary to popular belief, roadway speed limits are not always determined the way they were in the past. Today many speed limits are arbitrary. I imagine that leads to the whole us vs. them thing and the tools of that trade being discussed here (radar/laser vs. detectors) originally.

 

[jshen]

speed limits

I don't agree with many of the speed limits on interstates...but I think of all the people who get out on the road...with faulty vehicle equipment such as tires...and those trucks with crap hanging out back and falling off...the dirt/gravel haulers who loose half their load on the roadway...and my favorite....the damn log trucks...doing same or higher speed than cars...spreading bark all over the cars they pass. I would prefer going back to the different speeds for different type of vehicles.

I have to agree, as speed limits increase, the chances of fatalities increase as well.

 

[jean]

the bad guys?
the thief or the bad driver?

 

[Elliotness]

Originally posted by gnxs

When I'm on stretches of road (interstate) where EVERY car is going 65+ mph (usually 75+) EVERY time I drive there, yet the limit is posted at 55mph, I have trouble with that. Contrary to popular belief, roadway speed limits are not always determined the way they were in the past. Today many speed limits are arbitrary.

Yep, and out here in the west side of the country where the roads are straight the speed limit is 75 and it still seems to be to slow.

IMO the problem really isn't with speed, It is with bad drivers.

 

[gnxs]

Originally posted by Elliotness
Yep, and out here in the west side of the country where the roads are straight the speed limit is 75 and it still seems to be to slow.

IMO the problem really isn't with speed, It is with bad drivers.

You've got a point there!

 

[Lawman85]

Originally posted by jean
the bad guys?
the thief or the bad driver?

Both

 

[zen]

Re: My .02 worth

Originally posted by jshen
One thing you can count on...you will NEVER get a warning ticket from an officer if you have one. I would tell the driver..his warning was "on the box and sales receipt" when he purchased it. I am no longer a LEO but have a lot of friends I work with that are. They have the same feeling about detectors that I do.

That's not true. I've only been pulled over 2 times and both times I had my radar up and got a warning.

 

[DougT]

Originally posted by Lawman85
I love writing tickets to owners of radar and laser detectors.

I love laughin at cops when there hiding in the bush and I knew they were there a Mile + before i get there! **V-1**

Thank you Mike Valentine!! 10 year's+ and Going strong.


Not one ticket and yes I keep it updated.


I will say this ,the equipment is only as good as the Operator. Learn to read your Rader detector and It will save you Bucks!

 

[gnxs]

Originally posted by DougT
I love laughin at cops when there hiding in the bush and I knew they were there a Mile + before i get there! **V-1**

Thank you Mike Valentine!! 10 year's+ and Going strong.


Not one ticket and yes I keep it updated.


I will say this ,the equipment is only as good as the Operator. Learn to read your Rader detector and It will save you Bucks!

Truer words were never spoken.

Lawman85 doesn't realize how many guys that roll past him at 55 mph were going 85 mph a short time earlier, :kaboom: but slowed when he "instant-on'd" the car 1/2 mile ahead of them. :nono:

As a side note: Even though I haven't lived there in a while, I travel back to NJ from IL to visit my parents several times a year. NJ State Troopers are BY FAR the best and most creative at taking radar out of all the states I traverse on my way home. Especially the NJ troopers on Rt. 80.

 

[pwnt04]

Originally posted by Elliotness
Don't know any radar that is effective against laser... However, if you are observe your surroundings you can still avoid getting tagged. Laser operators must be stationary... Makes them a little easier to pick out.

What is a shifter?

A "shifter" is the name for Escort's active laser jamming device (i.e. Escort Laser Shifter).

I've been doing research lately about active radar jamming and have found a setup for $1,500 that will jam ALL police radar bands (X, K, Ka). However, jamming police radar is considered a felony in all 50 states and carries a big fine. Passive radar jammers (i.e. Rocky Mountain Radar) do not work. The FCC has issued the Rocky Mountain Radar company a cease and desist order for selling fraudulent and falsely advertised products. The reason that laser jamming is legal is because the FCC does not control the laser like they do with radar. The FDA controls laser due to its eye hazard issues. Currently, the FDA has no limitations regarding laser jamming.

 

[Elliotness]

Originally posted by pwnt04
A "shifter" is the name for Escort's active laser jamming device (i.e. Escort Laser Shifter).

HMMMM.... Interesting...

 

[jean]

When placed in the stealth mode, Laser Atlanta’s SpeedLaser was not jammed.About the Author: Carl Fors is President of Speed Measurement Laboratories, Inc.
It still a fifty fifty change,you will never be 100 percent sure.

 

[pwnt04]

Each "jammer" was not able to completely jam all of the LIDAR guns. The average jam success per unit is approximately 94%.

 

[Nucking Futs]

What about rader/laser jammers? I have read about them, I think Escort makes one? I also saw a British show about them. They can't be sold as jammers they are called something else but when they tried to clock the car it would only register about 30 feet away from the gun both laser and radar.

I could see using one in a pack of cars but not if you are running by yourself.

 

[Huachipato]

I have an Escort 8500X50. I have been pulled over once since I've had it, and was issued a warning for speeding (my stupidity to begin with - wasn't pay). Aside from that, it has saved me from countless potential tickets. On the flip side, I will agree that there is not much it does against Lidar. Nothing beats looking ahead and being alert.

As for if it works or not, it does work. You have to know how to use it though. If I'm alone on the road, I won't speed much more than 5MPH over the speed limit. If I'm with traffic, I am expecting that the drivers in front of me will be monitored in one way or another, and that is when the radar detector goes off warning me that there is radar presence up ahead.

I do keep a safe distance with the cars in front of me. On the same token, most of us here have a car capable of stopping in shorter distances than most of the other cars on the road. This is more of a concern for me, and a reason to sometimes just let the speeder behind go on by. I'd hate to have to slam on my brakes and have the guy tailgating (or is it drafting?) me hit me because of a slow reaction time.

On a side note, I have nothing but respect for law enforcement officers. I realize it is a tough job, and your job is to keep me and everyone around me safe.

 

[HennessyVemon]

I love writing tickets to owners of radar and laser detectors.

Your a ****ing dumbass, i hate cops like you, you have nothing better to do than hassel innocent people when you should be out actually stopping crime and doing actual police work, you are a disgrace to hard working cops.

 

[mswaim]

Your a ****ing dumbass, i hate cops like you, you have nothing better to do than hassel innocent people when you should be out actually stopping crime and doing actual police work, you are a discrace to hard working cops.

You really shouldn't post while doing drugs, it effects your ability to speak coherently, not to mention your ability spell beyond a first grade level.

With that said, please enlighten us with your definitions of:

1) "Hard working cop".

2) "Innocent people".

I would submit to you that a traffic officer who issues 25 citations in one day, all legitimate speeding violations is a "hard working cop" and the 25 violators are not innocent people.

It is a crime to speed, a minor one, but a crime none-the-less. In most states it is a crime to operate a radar detector.

Issuing a citation to a speeder who is in possession of an operating radar detector sounds like real police work to me, especially if the officer is assigned to a traffic detail.

 

[Lawman85]

Your a ****ing dumbass, i hate cops like you, you have nothing better to do than hassel innocent people when you should be out actually stopping crime and doing actual police work, you are a discrace to hard working cops.

I'm guessing if you were a rapist you would want me to leave you alone and go arrest all those speeders.... can't please everybody...