This is where technological deflation needs to kick in.... like with televisions... a flat plasma used to cost 10 grand...20 years later it's 500...95% deflation for a superior product..
LOL, ya lithium not going down in price. Neither is copper and other rare earth metals. Keep dreaming.This is where technological deflation needs to kick in.... like with televisions... a flat plasma used to cost 10 grand...20 years later it's 500...95% deflation for a superior product..
LOL, ya lithium not going down in price. Neither is copper and other rare earth metals. Keep dreaming.
I agree! Rare earth minerals are primarily found in China a Russia. Until and unless we find easier to obtain replacements, battery costs are going to remain high.LOL, ya lithium not going down in price. Neither is copper and other rare earth metals. Keep dreaming.
Sad, but mostly true. And they cost more than comparable ICE powered vehicle to begin with. Imagine the shock when you decide to trade your EV in on a new EV, say in 5 years. I wonder what a 2023 Ford Lightning will be worth in, say, 5-6 years. I found this quote on a Tesla depreciation search I did. "Teslas depreciate quickly because they're made with premium materials and use advanced technology. The electric vehicle market, in general, tends to depreciate much faster than any other type of vehicle."So basically these EVs are disposable cars/trucks. I dont see anyone buying a used 10 year old EV like we have with ice cars.
Lmao. It’s based on dictate at this point nothing more. Perhaps technological deflation may organically occur at some point, but that last sentence is pretty stupid.Y'all are too focused on the TV side... I am saying that the entire idea is predicated on breakthroughs making them lower cost over time.
Perhaps a non "rare earth mineral" battery is part of the future... I don't claim to know anything about it, but this whole evolution to EV IS based on technological deflation.
Y'all are too focused on the TV side... I am saying that the entire idea is predicated on breakthroughs making them lower cost over time.
Perhaps a non "rare earth mineral" battery is part of the future... I don't claim to know anything about it, but this whole evolution to EV IS based on technological deflation.
Y'all are too focused on the TV side... I am saying that the entire idea is predicated on breakthroughs making them lower cost over time.
Perhaps a non "rare earth mineral" battery is part of the future... I don't claim to know anything about it, but this whole evolution to EV IS based on technological deflation.
Problem is lfp batteries don't (as of yet) offer the same performance to size ratio.They're already phasing out nickel and cobalt. In any case, the "good used" battery market will be robust the way insurance co's total out vehicles these days.
Current battery tech just isn't sustainable given the materials used. For EVs to really be the answer we'll need a battery technology that isn't based on extremely finite and hard to recover resources.
They have had electric cars for over 100 years. The people have chosen which vehicle they prefer. This is standard capitalism. The government can try and force people to buy what they mandate (communism) but like in most societies since the beginning of time, capitalism tends to prevail.@SSSSSSSSSSSSVT
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Put it like this... it won't be settled in our lifetimes.
Give EV's 100 years to mature like ICE is currently at.
Then we can revisit the convo.