Rut Row Raggy!... SC'ed GTO

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Man that blower case on the GTO looks mysteriously close to dougwg's teaser "go fast goodies" thread pic looks like...........hmmm.
 

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Originally posted by Wilson & Co
who's case is that?? Is it a whipple? OEM'd by GM?

Wilson & Co, that 6 Speed GTO is one that belongs to a friend of mine from the state of Washington, that took this brand new GTO to Magnusen in California and left it with them for a month of fabrication and beta testing.

The Magnacharger (MP112) is installed onto this LS1 and Magnusen calculated the horsepower after installation, up from normal stock 350 to the flywheel, to the now rated 492 horsepower at the flywheel, before any other aftermarket modifications being done.

Now, the car is also getting Headers, revamping of the exhaust with all new Borla Twin Dual Cat Back Exhaust system and Random Technologies High Cat package.

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Other modifications will be Lower Crank Pulley Upgrade, plus it also has a Functional Banchee Ram Air Hood installed on it now, plus Ram Air Cold Air Intake setup, different from the picture shown above.

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Car should run quite well when they are finished with it. Hope this helps. :rockon:
 

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Originally posted by WYD_TRKR
Wilson & Co, that 6 Speed GTO is one that belongs to a friend of mine from the state of Washington, that took this brand new GTO to Magnusen in California and left it with them for a month of fabrication and beta testing.

The Magnacharger (MP112) is installed onto this LS1 and Magnusen calculated the horsepower after installation, up from normal stock 350 to the flywheel, to the now rated 492 horsepower at the flywheel, before any other aftermarket modifications being done.

Now, the car is also getting Headers, revamping of the exhaust with all new Borla Twin Dual Cat Back Exhaust system and Random Technologies High Cat package.

Other modifications will be Lower Crank Pulley Upgrade, plus it also has a Functional Banchee Ram Air Hood installed on it now, plus Ram Air Cold Air Intake setup, different from the picture shown above.

Car should run quite well when they are finished with it. Hope this helps. :rockon:

Thanks for the info!

Do you know how much boost they ran to get those #'s? Unfortunately, we probably won't see too many of them since I'm sure that kit is going to be in the 5k range with all the fab work they needed to do.

Still cool though. Now if GM could muster up the courage to do that from the factory ! Oops forgot, they can't take sales away from the vette!
 

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Originally posted by Wilson & Co
Thanks for the info!

Do you know how much boost they ran to get those #'s? Unfortunately, we probably won't see too many of them since I'm sure that kit is going to be in the 5k range with all the fab work they needed to do.

Still cool though. Now if GM could muster up the courage to do that from the factory ! Oops forgot, they can't take sales away from the vette!

I think it's cool as well, expensive in the long run though....power adder on a high compression motor, no forged rods an pistons = Driving with fingers crossed. I've done that and I hate the feeling.

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Excellent platform to build on..
I would replace the powdered metal insides of that engine before I charged it with anything above 6psi though..
But thats just me..
When i bought my cobra, the GTO was my second choice..
@nd because to me, it felt like a very powerful buick gs or something, if that makes any sense...
Lin
 

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I see that some folks are still in denial of the LS1.

FWIW, LS1 f and y-bodies can run 10's with under 500rwhp so 6psi should be fine...slicks, 4000stall converter, etc.

A buddy of mine traps 130mph with a twin turbo kit on a stock LS1 motor. That's 600rwhp in his Camaro SS.
 

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Originally posted by unit213
I see that some folks are still in denial of the LS1.

FWIW, LS1 f and y-bodies can run 10's with under 500rwhp so 6psi should be fine...slicks, 4000stall converter, etc.

A buddy of mine traps 130mph with a twin turbo kit on a stock LS1 motor. That's 600rwhp in his Camaro SS.

10's :lol1: we have a 2002 model z06 running around here with the magnuson blower on professionally installed and tuned at lingenfelters shop pushing 6lbs boost and a 2001 cobra vert running a 100 shot ran him from a slow roll and it was dead even till my buddy's bottle ran out of nitrous,so i'am not impressed what the blower did on the ls6 vette motor.the zo6 is also putting down 470+rwhp and is not even close to a 10 sec car.i say let them stick blowers on the ls1 but at only 5-6lbs boost and the kits costing thousands of dollars nitrous looks to be a better performer for the high compression ls1:idea:
 

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F/I Ls1's just dont do anything for me, if your going to end up going with boost why but such a high compression car? that caar was meant to run n/a. If that were me i would just get a badass h/c setup and be happy with that and then strap on the nitrous for those must neede situations. Its just not cost effective to boost those things but i guess if you got money to rebuild them why not. i would like to see what a stock head stock cammed ls1 with 8.5 compresssion makes with the 8 #'s of boost and exhaust, i bet it wouldnt be that more impressive than what a stock boosted 03cobra makes with exhaust.
 

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Originally posted by wuplash
10's :lol1: we have a 2002 model z06 running around here with the magnuson blower on professionally installed and tuned at lingenfelters shop pushing 6lbs boost and a 2001 cobra vert running a 100 shot ran him from a slow roll and it was dead even till my buddy's bottle ran out of nitrous,so i'am not impressed what the blower did on the ls6 vette motor.the zo6 is also putting down 470+rwhp and is not even close to a 10 sec car.i say let them stick blowers on the ls1 but at only 5-6lbs boost and the kits costing thousands of dollars nitrous looks to be a better performer for the high compression ls1:idea:


My point has just been proven. I don't think that denial was the correct wording...lack of knowledge is a better term.

I have owned both cars, so I speak from experience.
 

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Originally posted by dougwg
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how long before they catch up?


I doesn't matter; bring it on! :burnout: I'm just glad to see GM stay in this Muscle Car Renaissance period with Ford. The more Detroit Iron, the better; we need to keep those pesky
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Now, if Chrysler will only bring back a revamped "A" body (i.e. '70-'74 Challenger or Barracuda).:idea:
 

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Originally posted by unit213
My point has just been proven. I don't think that denial was the correct wording...lack of knowledge is a better term.

I have owned both cars, so I speak from experience.

humm lack of knowledge.well lets see after viewing the race between the almighty magnuson blown z06 against a 01 cobra vert with 100 shot and the cobra is side by side with the z06 till his bottle ran out of nitrous is enough to convince me sticking a blower on a factory high compression ls1 or ls6 engine is a waste of time and money since you can't safely run but 5-6 lbs of boost.i have witnessed this magnuson blown 2002 z06 vs a na 2002 z06 and the blown one was hardly any faster than the na one.i know a ls1,ls6 can be made to be fast but doing it with a supercharger on a non built up motor only being able to run 5-6lbs of boost due to the compression ratio makes it a mod with not much in return.
 

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i got a buddy who has a magnuson vette. he has ported heads and lower comp., blower cam, full exhaust, and stock bottom end. 538 rwhp and i think 540 ft ilbs trq. its lasted so far 9000+ miles. remember its got the same ls1 motor.
 

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Originally posted by wuplash
humm lack of knowledge.well lets see after viewing the race between the almighty magnuson blown z06 against a 01 cobra vert with 100 shot and the cobra is side by side with the z06 till his bottle ran out of nitrous is enough to convince me sticking a blower on a factory high compression ls1 or ls6 engine is a waste of time and money since you can't safely run but 5-6 lbs of boost.i have witnessed this magnuson blown 2002 z06 vs a na 2002 z06 and the blown one was hardly any faster than the na one.i know a ls1,ls6 can be made to be fast but doing it with a supercharger on a non built up motor only being able to run 5-6lbs of boost due to the compression ratio makes it a mod with not much in return.

You watched one race and now you know everything about the LS1. Congrats. Good luck. You're going to need it. :beer:

...and the magnuson blower sucks.
 

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Re: Re: Rut Row Raggy!... SC'ed GTO

Originally posted by §ilver§nake
I doesn't matter; bring it on! :burnout: I'm just glad to see GM stay in this Muscle Car Renaissance period with Ford. The more Detroit Iron, the better; we need to keep those pesky
smileyR.gif
at bay.

Now, if Chrysler will only bring back a revamped "A" body (i.e. '70-'74 Challenger or Barracuda).:idea:


I with ya, I love it that everyone is uping the HP. It's like the beginning of another Muscle Car era. I saw on a Magazine a couple of months ago a red Chevelle SS (looked like a Malibu) title said "The Car Chevy Must Build". It will be cool beating up on something other than another Mustang or Camaro.
 

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So being you witnessed 2 races between a blown Z06 vs an n/a one, and a 100 shot Cobra vert vs a blown Z, and that makes it 100% concerete, absolute fact that its a waste of time and money to throw a blower on a high compression Gen III? lol.

Thats a crock. Im not making excuses, but if the blown car couldnt even keep up w/ an n/a one, then somethings wrong w/ his car. Just b/c you have the $$$ to afford an LPE vette, or LPE products doesnt mean you have the driver skill, or intelligence to actually handle that potential. LPE says 140rwhp is the avg increase they get off an blown LS1, so i'd assume the least to expect from an LS6 would be 120, and the most 160 depending upon boost settings.

Now, even w/ the 100 shot the Cobra is sitting about what, mid 300s? (assuming no other mods) W/ the blower, the Z is pushing near 500 (again, assuming no other mods). I'm wondering if you werent just a witness to a driver who couldnt handle his car, vs the "slapping a blower on an LS6 is retarded" theory
 

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