Terminator vs GT500 Shootout Roll call
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oke::beer:What's the plan Posi? Is it going to be an average of all of the cars combined in each class Such as Gt500's 10.15 average ET, or is it going to be an individual average per car, per class?
What are the rules going to be and how is the class going to be set up?
Also I really don't want to drive nine hours and find out I need a cage in my car to race. I'm not going to cut up my new car.
Also I really don't want to drive nine hours and find out I need a cage in my car to race. I'm not going to cut up my new car.
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to hard to do that with diff trans. a good shifted stick car will be just as fast as the auto, just very few people are perfect overtime.
no averages...heads up, run whatcha brung
that is totally up to you. there is tech, and there are many people that have run at BG in similar shoes to yours and been fine. No one can guarantee anything though
Im still going to go and race. I will just keep my fingers crossed I don't get kicked out. Should be a bit faster by this race but for such minor mods i dont see them giving me to much trouble. Will prob run full weight so it will look and be 90% stock.
I'd love to go to this... Just depends on if I'll be able to get off work.
I predict that there will be a lot of whining at this race, Blower whining that is. LOL And I've ran at True street Beechbend several years now, and I"ve never seen anyone get kicked out for lack of a cage. I wouldn't tell them at tech I was planning on running mid 10's though. I usually tell them I'm hoping to run 12's if they ask me how fast my car is.
hey wheres the rules for the true street.. i would like to look into to doing it, just ive never particpated in any type of event..
plenty of time to take it off!
I will update the threads with the rules. Basically a true 03/04 or gt500, stock body ( no mini tub, tube chassis ) any trans, any power adder, any rear. Motor must be 4v mod motor (4.6/5.4 based) but no limits on size, any fuel. All NHRA rules apply also
"Technical rules"
Class Description
Terminator / GT500 Shootout is for OEM chassis (VIN verified) '03-'04
Cobra and '07-'11 GT500 stock bodied vehicles using a Ford modular 4.6
or 5.4 V-8 (4v) based engines only.
Qualifying Information
Ladder Type, & Tree All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, Pro .400 tree, Heads-Up.
1: ENGINE
1.1 COOLING SYSTEM RADIATOR: Water pump: Any Permitted
COOLING FANS: Any permitted.
1.2 ENGINE: Engine must be a Modular 4/6/5.4 based V-8 Ford engine. Internal
modifications are permitted.
1.3 EXHAUST: Any Permitted.
1.3a) HEADERS & COLLECTORS: Any headers and/or collectors permitted.
1.3d) MUFFLER \REQUIREMENTS: Mufflers permitted. Any type of collector
mufflers are permitted. 1.5A) FUEL-DELIVERY SYSTEM DELIVERY SYSTEM: All fuel
lines must originate and return to a single, non- segmented, fuel cell or
OEM fuel tank. A valve for removal of fuel (gasoline) during technical
inspections is mandatory.
1.6 GASOLINE
1.6a) GASOLINE: Gasoline as outlined here is the only acceptable fuel for
use in this eliminator. We can't check e85 and pump gas because it has
methanol in it, so any gasoline can be permitted including Q16 as well.
1.6b) NITROUS OXIDE\SUPERCHARGER\TURBOCHARGER: Any permitted.
Power adders: Any power adder or combination of power adders permitted
(nitrous oxide, supercharger, or turbocharger or a combination)
1.9 OIL SYSTEM OILING SYSTEM: Any permitted. Any oil pan permitted.
1.18 VALVETRAIN: Any permitted.
1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD: Any permitted.
2.4 DRIVESHAFTDRIVESHAFT: Any permitted.
2.11 REAREND: Any automotive type rearend permitted.
2.12 TRANSMISSION: Any automatic or manual transmission permitted
3.4 SUSPENSION, FRONT SUSPENSION: 3.4a) K-MEMBERS: Aftermarket K-
Members permitted, but must attach to the chassis using only the
original eight (8) factory OEM type mounting bolts in the factory
mounting location. No part of the K-member may be permanently attached
to the chassis. K-member may be modified in oil pan area to allow oil
pan enlargement or removal. Are the new mustangs still using the 8 bolt
attachment points?
3.4c) CONTROL ARMS: OEM or tubular stock type control arms required which
are attached in stock location.
3.4d) SHOCKS/STRUTS: OEM or aftermarket style shocks/struts & springs
required in stock location.
3.4e) SPRINGS: Aftermarket springs permitted.
3.4f) COIL OVERS: Coil over struts permitted. Stock OEM mounting location
required.
3.4g) CAMBER PLATES: Bolt on type chamber plates permitted.
3.4 SUSPENSION, REAR SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension required.
STOCK TYPE SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension may utilize aftermarket,
direct replacement type suspension components including aftermarket
replacement shocks, springs, and/or control arms. All stock type 3-link and
4- link suspensions must maintain stock lateral angles and attachment
points, but may be moved up or down on rear axle. Aftermarket torque arms
permitted.
3.4c) REPLACEMENT CONTROL ARMS: Replacement aftermarket OEM style upper and
lower control arms permitted. Control arms may use any type bushing,
bearing, or rod end. Control arms may be adjustable to any length.
3.4d) PANHARD BARS: Panhard bars permitted to control lateral movement of
rearend housing. Panhard bars must be located aft of rearend housing, and
control only lateral rearend movement. Panhard bars may be welded.
3.4e) SWAY BARS: Aftermarket or factory sway bars permitted.
Aftermarket sway bars may be welded to both chassis and rearend housing.
3.4f) TORQUE ARMS: Permitted.
3.6 WHEELIE BARS: Prohibited.
4: FRAME 4.4 FRAME: Stock, unaltered frame rails required in front subframe.
Subframes may be joined under car. If connector protrudes through floor,
floor must be completely welded to connector. Stock rear subframes must
remain stock, unaltered, and in stock location.
5: WHEEELS
No spindle mount wheels prohibited
7.5: FIREWALLS
FIREWALL: Stock, unaltered firewall required.
9: SUPPORT GROUPS: Trans brake and 2 step ok
"Technical rules"
Class Description
Terminator / GT500 Shootout is for OEM chassis (VIN verified) '03-'04
Cobra and '07-'11 GT500 stock bodied vehicles using a Ford modular 4.6
or 5.4 V-8 (4v) based engines only.
Qualifying Information
Ladder Type, & Tree All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, Pro .400 tree, Heads-Up.
1: ENGINE
1.1 COOLING SYSTEM RADIATOR: Water pump: Any Permitted
COOLING FANS: Any permitted.
1.2 ENGINE: Engine must be a Modular 4/6/5.4 based V-8 Ford engine. Internal
modifications are permitted.
1.3 EXHAUST: Any Permitted.
1.3a) HEADERS & COLLECTORS: Any headers and/or collectors permitted.
1.3d) MUFFLER \REQUIREMENTS: Mufflers permitted. Any type of collector
mufflers are permitted. 1.5A) FUEL-DELIVERY SYSTEM DELIVERY SYSTEM: All fuel
lines must originate and return to a single, non- segmented, fuel cell or
OEM fuel tank. A valve for removal of fuel (gasoline) during technical
inspections is mandatory.
1.6 GASOLINE
1.6a) GASOLINE: Gasoline as outlined here is the only acceptable fuel for
use in this eliminator. We can't check e85 and pump gas because it has
methanol in it, so any gasoline can be permitted including Q16 as well.
1.6b) NITROUS OXIDE\SUPERCHARGER\TURBOCHARGER: Any permitted.
Power adders: Any power adder or combination of power adders permitted
(nitrous oxide, supercharger, or turbocharger or a combination)
1.9 OIL SYSTEM OILING SYSTEM: Any permitted. Any oil pan permitted.
1.18 VALVETRAIN: Any permitted.
1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD: Any permitted.
2.4 DRIVESHAFTDRIVESHAFT: Any permitted.
2.11 REAREND: Any automotive type rearend permitted.
2.12 TRANSMISSION: Any automatic or manual transmission permitted
3.4 SUSPENSION, FRONT SUSPENSION: 3.4a) K-MEMBERS: Aftermarket K-
Members permitted, but must attach to the chassis using only the
original eight (8) factory OEM type mounting bolts in the factory
mounting location. No part of the K-member may be permanently attached
to the chassis. K-member may be modified in oil pan area to allow oil
pan enlargement or removal. Are the new mustangs still using the 8 bolt
attachment points?
3.4c) CONTROL ARMS: OEM or tubular stock type control arms required which
are attached in stock location.
3.4d) SHOCKS/STRUTS: OEM or aftermarket style shocks/struts & springs
required in stock location.
3.4e) SPRINGS: Aftermarket springs permitted.
3.4f) COIL OVERS: Coil over struts permitted. Stock OEM mounting location
required.
3.4g) CAMBER PLATES: Bolt on type chamber plates permitted.
3.4 SUSPENSION, REAR SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension required.
STOCK TYPE SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension may utilize aftermarket,
direct replacement type suspension components including aftermarket
replacement shocks, springs, and/or control arms. All stock type 3-link and
4- link suspensions must maintain stock lateral angles and attachment
points, but may be moved up or down on rear axle. Aftermarket torque arms
permitted.
3.4c) REPLACEMENT CONTROL ARMS: Replacement aftermarket OEM style upper and
lower control arms permitted. Control arms may use any type bushing,
bearing, or rod end. Control arms may be adjustable to any length.
3.4d) PANHARD BARS: Panhard bars permitted to control lateral movement of
rearend housing. Panhard bars must be located aft of rearend housing, and
control only lateral rearend movement. Panhard bars may be welded.
3.4e) SWAY BARS: Aftermarket or factory sway bars permitted.
Aftermarket sway bars may be welded to both chassis and rearend housing.
3.4f) TORQUE ARMS: Permitted.
3.6 WHEELIE BARS: Prohibited.
4: FRAME 4.4 FRAME: Stock, unaltered frame rails required in front subframe.
Subframes may be joined under car. If connector protrudes through floor,
floor must be completely welded to connector. Stock rear subframes must
remain stock, unaltered, and in stock location.
5: WHEEELS
No spindle mount wheels prohibited
7.5: FIREWALLS
FIREWALL: Stock, unaltered firewall required.
9: SUPPORT GROUPS: Trans brake and 2 step ok
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Here's a link to the TS rules
http://www.nmradigital.com/rules/docs/2M TRUE STREET 2011 Final.pdf
I've enjoyed running that class for years now, but I'm anxious to try this gt500/cobra shootout this year.
never mind pointless anyways
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Will have to look as it gets closer but in some of the classes I've run like this ( x vs y) it's just basically everyone for themselves to find a victor. Yea sure I would hate to race Posi and bump him or vice versa. You can't make everyone happy but what I see happening is once first round is done a ladder will be setup and as many will be matched up as possible. The last 2,3,4 cars in the ladder might very well be the same car and will have to fight eachother to stay in it. It's going to be a blast regardless so who cares!!
I work out of state for months at a time, so it just depends on when my off days fall an if I've accumulated enough PTO.
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