Ford doesn't usually pass on anniversary models, and the 50th for the debut of the GT500 is significant, not just because we have a '67 GT500 in the family.
Either Ford has been very secretive or stretched thin to make the GT succeed after recently launching the GT350, but I also feel passing on the 50th of the GT500 means they may be leaving the Shelby connection to bring back Cobra?
Either way, I'll take a lightened GT350 with a TT 5.0/5.2 with a beefy Tremec and auto option for a strip focus over the 350s track focus.
Fun speculation on what's next.
-J
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You don't think there's a chance Ford surprises us by sneaking a few very late 2017s in like they did with those very limited 2015 GT350s?
Same thing happened with me. I really liked the idea of the 550HP in the '11/'12 GT500s, but when the monster Shelby was released at 662, I just HAD to have one. I modded a gorgeous low-mileage '91 LX Coupe back in the day and it became no fun to drive once I had modded it too far. I was excited about a stock GT500 that had plenty of power, all the modern day conveniences and a full warranty.
I, too, thought I would never sell this car, but if Ford goes all out with the following then I'm in for a 2018 GT500:
- 315 rear tires
- Brembos at all four corners
- 720+ HP twin turbo V8
Agreed! I did the same thing with a highly modded Fox and had a number of resulting issues. The prospect of re-engineering/upgrading an entire car to keep up with the latest didn't seem very wise from a time or residual value perspective.
Why would Ford abandon the Trinity Engine? The motor has so much potential.
Trinity is a great motor but has weak rods if you're modding. Replacing those is very costly and time-consuming. Trinity also gives up higher-rpm power due to no variable cam timing, DOHC motors are perfect for VCT so it's a huge wasted opportunity to take advantage of the upside of DOHC. Also, over-rev is limited to 8-seconds due to piston speeds, I'd like a full-time redline of 7K. The oil pump drive gear fails at elevated power levels as well. Great engine but the Modulars are now outdated, they just leave too much on the table compared to what Voodoo is capable of. They made a ton of incremental improvements to Voodoo (head flow, valvetrain stability, etc.). If they made a 5.2 in cross-plane configuration (or even flat-plane) with more durable bottom-end components with boost and 720+ how would that not be more attractive than Trinity?
I recall reading that the heads on the 5.0 Coyote motor were made with provisions for direct injection, which makes me think the next GT500 will be a twin turbo 5.0 with direct injection like the other ecoboost motors. I think 725 HP would be easier to make with a 5.0 Coyote based twin turbo than it was to get 662 HP from a supercharged 5.8 in the 13/14. Doesn't make much sense to use the high revving 5.2 flat plane motor, when turbocharging an aluminator version of the 5.0 will get you there a lot cheaper.
If the car remains IRS, I hope an automatic transmission is available, because putting down that much power with a manual transmission on the drag strip will be a challenge. I assume the wider tires and big brakes from the current GT350 would carry over to the GT500. If none of this happens but the motor, I'll still be getting one.
David
PS: I don't care what they call it either, Shelby, Cobra, GT500, Boss or whatever else they want to name it doesn't matter to me.
The cost of engine development for the 5.2 is already largely taken care of so making tweaks to that engine makes sense from a business perspective. Hameedi said Voodoo was the biggest engine program in SVT history so there's that.
A freaking wet-dream engine would be a shorter-deck version of the 6.2 in aluminum with its 115-mm bore spacing (5.4-5.8 liter displacement) fed by twins. From my understanding the blocks are made at a 3rd party foundry already, as are the bare heads so a clean-sheet engine in low-volumes could be feasible from a cost perspective. In reality it's probably pie-in-the-sky but would be an amazing surprise.
It will be interesting to see how they get 720+ from a Coyote/Voodoo based engine if that's the route they choose.