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  1. quad

    quad Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Vice President Mike Pence said the U.S. will return astronauts to the moon within five years “by any means necessary,” possibly using commercial rockets, challenging China for dominance in space.

    “The first woman and the next man on the moon will both be American astronauts launched by American rockets from American soil,” Pence said Monday at a meeting of the National Space Council in Huntsville, Alabama.

    The U.S. and China are in a race to explore Mars and beyond as the two powers compete for economic, technological and military superiority. After becoming the first country to land a spacecraft on the far side of the moon last year, China is planning four more missions to return samples to earth before studying the feasibility of a lunar research base.

    The U.S. is the only nation to land an astronaut on the moon but hasn’t performed the feat since 1972. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration no longer has rockets capable of making the trip, and a new moon program begun under President George W. Bush was subsequently canceled by President Barack Obama over cost concerns.

    “Conventional wisdom says we’ll need more time” to get U.S. astronauts to the moon, Pence said. He added that if the only way to achieve it is with commercial rockets, “then commercial rockets it will be.”

    The Trump administration will ask Congress for resources, but “mission success will require more than just money,” Pence said. NASA must “transform itself into a leaner, more agile,” agency, he said. And if NASA is unable to reach the moon by 2025, he said, then “we need to change the organization, not the mission.”

    NASA’s current budget is about $21.5 billion, while China’s annual space spending is about $8 billion.

    China plans to launch the Chang’e-5 probe to the moon later this year, with three more in the offing, Wu Yanhua, vice administrator of the China National Space Administration, said in January. At least two of them will land on the moon’s south pole and conduct research, he said.

    President Donald Trump, Pence said, told NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine to get people to the moon “by any means necessary.”

    “Urgency must be our watchword,” Pence said.
     
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    First to call bullshit.
    Why on earth would you wnt to return there, to collect more rocks and dust? Stop thinking in the 1960-1970 range Pence.
     
  3. L8APEX

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    The moon is the obvious stepping off point for a mission to Mars. Not only will it give the chance to get some practice e.v.a. and settlement on an alien surface, and give us more practice outside the Earth's protective Van Allen belts.
    Without a way to protect from the inonizing radiation a mission to Mars would likely lead to all sorts of cancer and other illness and probability death to the astronauts.
    There has also been water (ice) found at the poles. Not only does that make settlement more feasible, eventually It could be refined and used to fuel rockets that do travel to Mars. Much easier/more efficient to get fuel from the lunar surface than via earth based launches.

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    HudsonFalcon Premium Member Premium Member Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    Moon base is needed for eventual relations with green women.
     
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    Oh, I guess you are against technology and progress. There is a lot more to it than "collecting rocks and dust."


    “More than by any other imaginative concept, the mind of man is aroused by the thought of exploring the mysteries of outer space. Through such exploration, man hopes to broaden his horizons, add to his knowledge, improve his way of living on earth.” — President Dwight Eisenhower, June 20, 1958

    “Fifty years after the creation of NASA, our goal is no longer just a destination to reach. Our goal is the capacity for people to work and learn and operate and live safely beyond the Earth for extended periods of time, ultimately in ways that are more sustainable and even indefinite. And in fulfilling this task, we will not only extend humanity’s reach in space—we will strengthen America’s leadership here on Earth.” — President Barack Obama, April 15, 2010
     
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    ...and the American people still can't get afford healthcare. The moon seems like a waste of money to me.
     
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    I get it. You hate technology and the progress that space missions bring to improving healthcare on Earth.

    There have been so many innovations that have came from the pursuit of space travel via NASA. Some of these innovations include harnessing the power of light technology(originally used in plant experiments) to reduce pain in chemotherapy, bone marrow, and stem cell transplants. There are so many challenges in space travel when it comes to human health, including how one can handle stress in isolated conditions, improving food nutrition, improvement in sleep, ensuring medication can last as long as needed in space, ect ect. Many innovations in healthcare came from space travel and the challenges associated with it
     
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    Sounds expensive. Do we really need to do this?


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    NEVER went the first time and still don't have the technology to go.....land.....relaunch and come back alive......BIG WASTE of money to even attempt it!!:cool:
     
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    Sounds honest at heart. Millions still suffer from diseases, syndromes, and illness. Most doctors that serve the public are clueless. It seems they are taught a system that was written by health insurance companies.

    I believe they have cures out there, but they don't want the population to have access. Why did we all of a sudden have a cure for Ebola?
     
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    Didn't Apollo 20 find some sort of mummified female up there?
     
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    Reading some of these comments has me thinking the movie "Interstellar" might be the movie we watch in the future and we'll mention how unintentionally prophetic it is, just like how we do with "Idiocracy" now.
     
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    Seriously? You don't think there are other ways to gather data, make improvements?
    Seems like a waste of resources when it can be done in less costly ways.
     
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    How much of our own oceans are unexplored?

    Seems like that a good starting point. If we can’t make a livable base at the bottom of the ocean you can’t convince me we’re doing some real space travel
     
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    No. Credit for Nancy Pelosi goes to the DNC.
     
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    Can you just stay in Europe next time you go?
     
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