Doesn't the Evo 5.0 have an auto now? The last MMFF article on the Evo 5.0 said they were already on a second clutch install according to the article. That little $$$ tidbit gets left out it seems.
Depressing!
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Rough figures it looks like about $42,000 in parts plus the car plus the labor to build it. That's got to be about $115,000 total! No profit.
These guys with rice burners are always looking for ways to put us down. We bleed FORD BLUE baby. I don't give a f*** what others are running. At the end of the day go to the track and you'll see we are always the top dogs... looser
Who's "looser" ???:??::??:
The dog???
Rice burners???:burn:
The blue Ford baby ????:uh oh:
I was considering a Tundra until what I heard from the techs that work on them. It was kind a funny I was visiting a friend who's the head service tech at my Ford dealer. When I told him what I was thinking about he said come with me. We went across the street to the Toyota Service Center where he has allot of friends that work on the Tundra's and the stories and problems they talked about with the Tundra convince me to forget that thought. They even showed me a bed that caved in on customer carrying a load and it was a 2009 Tundra.
GREAT STORY!!!!:rollseyes
Did your buddy tell you about Ford cam phasers; leaky injectors causing bent rods; shooting spark plugs pre-'04 and sticking plugs after '04??? Did he mention cracked doors on '97-'04 150's???
They all have their problems for sure.:thumbsup:
I'm not buying a 04 or earlier. earlier tundra's were rust buckets thats why they recalled them. I'am buying a 2011 and the F150's have no major problems to speak of, the Tundra's do from shaking beds, weak frames, cracked cam shafts, transmission problems, bed and tail gate problems the list goes on and on and these problems are on current models. The fords have no such problems on their current models. Next time you are at your Toyota dealer go ask the Techs they have the best info because they work on them everyday.
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LOL!!!
There were something like 20 cams that were bad in '07.......out of the 1st 400,000 total (100,000 trucks)
There was a bad batch of torque convertors. Ford could only dream of making a 6 speed as strong in the 1/2 ton segment.
Tailgate seam separation was an early problem.
Shaking beds/weak frames is from a Ford produced video touting how much better a fully boxed frame supposedly is. Betcha you'll never see an F-250, with it's C-channel frame like the Tundra, go over that Silver Creek test track.
If it matters, I am a Toyota tech, I assure you my friends that work at the Ford dealer flag many more hours than I do. I'll also assure you that Ford fights its dealers much more on warranty claims than Toyota. One of the many reasons why I left.
This false sense that asian imports don't break is BS. They all break. We run trucks 100 to 150 K per year. One of the best tucks I've ever run is.........A Chevy and i'm a Ford guy. Chevy with an Isuzu engine an allison trans is the best truck I've ever run. I have one that has 400 K and never has had any major work. Not even its first brake job. 10 year ago I'd say asian import were ahead of us. But not anymore. I have a few P/U's that we run to death and i mean till death do us part. Ford has done very well in the small truck department.
For every ONE Tundra sold there are SIX F-Series trucks sold, so common sense will be if they have EQUAL issues MORE Fords will have issues because there are MORE OF THEM.
September 2010 Year-to-Date Top 10 Pickup Truck Sales - PickupTrucks.com News
As of Sept...
1 Ford F-Series +30.6% September 2010 47,433 Coming soon
385,879 September 2009 33,877
2 Chevrolet Silverado +16.7% September 2010 32,185 Coming soon
267,715 September 2009 19,401
3 Ram Trucks -1.6% September 2010 16,887 Coming soon
140,889 September 2009 13,452
4 GMC Sierra +13.6% September 2010 11,077 Coming soon
90,235 September 2009 7,244
5 Toyota Tacoma -9.2% September 2010 8,874 Coming soon
77,584 September 2009 7,513
6 Toyota Tundra +21.8% September 2010 6,923 Coming soon
68,645 September 2009 6,308
7 Ford Ranger -2.4% September 2010 3,815 Coming soon
42,844 September 2009 2,052
8 Nissan Frontier +42.2% September 2010 3,901 Coming soon
30,035 September 2009 2,164
9 Chevrolet Colorado -33.2% September 2010 2,723 Coming soon
18,426 September 2009 2,094
10 Nissan Titan +27.4% September 2010 2,063 Coming soon
17,463 September 2009 1,900
September 2010 Year-to-Date Top 10 Pickup Truck Sales - PickupTrucks.com News
As of Sept...
1 Ford F-Series +30.6% September 2010 47,433 Coming soon
385,879 September 2009 33,877
2 Chevrolet Silverado +16.7% September 2010 32,185 Coming soon
267,715 September 2009 19,401
3 Ram Trucks -1.6% September 2010 16,887 Coming soon
140,889 September 2009 13,452
4 GMC Sierra +13.6% September 2010 11,077 Coming soon
90,235 September 2009 7,244
5 Toyota Tacoma -9.2% September 2010 8,874 Coming soon
77,584 September 2009 7,513
6 Toyota Tundra +21.8% September 2010 6,923 Coming soon
68,645 September 2009 6,308
7 Ford Ranger -2.4% September 2010 3,815 Coming soon
42,844 September 2009 2,052
8 Nissan Frontier +42.2% September 2010 3,901 Coming soon
30,035 September 2009 2,164
9 Chevrolet Colorado -33.2% September 2010 2,723 Coming soon
18,426 September 2009 2,094
10 Nissan Titan +27.4% September 2010 2,063 Coming soon
17,463 September 2009 1,900
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Lol, never listen to a tech. One of my customer is a Ford diesel tech. Oh the stories. But you have to take it with a grain of salt from anyone one of them because that's obviously all they do all day. He might see 3-5 vehicles a week, but probably not bad compared to how many are out there, for any brand.
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I guess this thread is officially hijacked???
Some of you are missing the point. So far I haven't read ANYONE saying one brand is more reliable than the other. What I'm reading is they ALL have issues and some people have been burned by a particular make which caused a switch.
Some people haven't had any problems which tends to create loyalty (except for the made up story from that dick guy. 500lbs bottomed it out; yea right:rollseyes
As far as sales numbers, it's a moot point. You can't compare a "series" of trucks that includes well over a 1/2 dozen variations to one 1/2 ton model.
Until Ford makes the 6.2L available across the 150 line, there is no comparison in powertrain performance in the 1/2 ton segment. Some of us GT-500 owners seem to put performance a tad higher on the list than others.
I'll also reserve judgement until I see how the ecoboost V6 works in a full size truck.
It is refreshing to see Ford address its biggest deficit in this segment.
You've got a problem, you either don't read well or your ignorant. You should most likely quote people from now on rather then put words in there mouth. I didn't say it bottomed out I said "I could put 500#s of tools in the bed of the Toyota and you could barely drive it. It looked like it had 10,000#s in the bed." It drove that way too.
I've bought 4 new trucks since 2001 all have been Fords. I still own all of them. I've never had a problem out of them. The 20 years before that I purchased 14 trucks. Mostly GM products I don’t own any of those now. There may be a trend there.
How many trucks have you purchased in the last 29 years? I’ll bet it’s not been 18. I think my experience with trucks of all brand gives me credit.
LOL!!! So what exactly does a truck look like that has 10,000#'s in the bed??? And like what was already mentioned, you are either a liar or did not have an '07> Tundra. 500 pounds would not even lower the springs an inch and I'll bet you on it.
BTW, before throwing in the "ignorant" card, the correct word would be you're not "your".
Curious as to why you would have bought a Toyota if the the Fords since 2001 have given you no problems??? Your story is one of many. I can surf the web and find many a GM fan with the opposite story of yours. Heck, there are people out there that swear by Dodge!!!
Hmmmm...........Guess I was correct: 4 Fords since 2001 and 14 other trucks before that. The newest Tundra you could have had would have been a 2000; that is if you even owned one.
If you insist that 500#'s made an '07 or newer Tundra barely drivable, then your "credit" means squat. (but we've already established you didn't own one);-)
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Nothing wrong with you guys liking your Toyota's, it's your prerogative...
But in the meantime, as the major profits from these import sales go over seas,
take your asses with it ! This country doesn't need this crap... and don't give
me the line about "They're built here and support families here"... because we
can fill these factories with American goods...
I'd buy 3 raggedy ass Chevrolet's before ANY foreign country EVER saw my
dollar from me buying one of their vehicles... BELIEVE THAT !
And hey, while you're driving your SUPERMAN Tundra to a port in California,
why don't you stop at a BP station and fill up, too, while you're at it...:nonono:
But in the meantime, as the major profits from these import sales go over seas,
take your asses with it ! This country doesn't need this crap... and don't give
me the line about "They're built here and support families here"... because we
can fill these factories with American goods...
I'd buy 3 raggedy ass Chevrolet's before ANY foreign country EVER saw my
dollar from me buying one of their vehicles... BELIEVE THAT !
And hey, while you're driving your SUPERMAN Tundra to a port in California,
why don't you stop at a BP station and fill up, too, while you're at it...:nonono:
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LMAO!!!
Yup, those "major profits" did us proud Americans real good. Always wondered how those factories in China/S.America and other foreign soils were built by Ford and GM.
Unless you actually own stock in one of those global companies (and Ford stock is doing very well) why do you care where those "major profits" go???
Enjoy those junk Chevys, last Mustang I checked had +- 50% foreign content.....a lot of foreign countries have already seen your dollar.
Amazes me how blind people can be.
To the so called Toyota tech the weak frame is not only pointed out in the Ford videos it is well know by Toyota they just do not want to own up to it. As a tech you should know about the bed bounce that happens between 55 to 65 on the tundra's on the highway, my friends Tundra does it and you can feel it. The dealership told him its common and they do not have a fix yet. All I was stating was what I have seen and heard at a Toyota dealership's service department. By the way Ford is selling 6 times as many F150's but after looking in the service departments of both you would have thought Toyota was selling more by how many they had in their service bay. From what I have learned it's the opposite of what you say Toyota goes to great lengths to hide problems. Ford does allot better at fixing issues with their products from what I have seen. I own neither vehicles just looking right now and the Ford is at the top of the list so far. I want to drive one the ecoboost and the 6.2 in a Lariat limited. I'm glad you like your Tundra it's just from what I have seen Ford has nowhere near as many problems with their current Trucks as Toyota does. By the way Mustang has 65% domestic content not 50%. That's all I got to say.
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I'm going to go with (B) Ignorant
You haven't read my post or can't comprehend, either way Your going on my ignore list.
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