M112'd Sixxer vs 03 Cobra?
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Mysteed Performance M112 Kit build thread *update p128: vid and dynosheet* - Page 4 - 3.8 Mustang Message Board
Post #244. Very small cam and 0 machine work at only 7 psi. This guy's at 10.
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So a 3.8 v6 with a stock non intercooled Eaton @10 psi = an 03/04 cobra on stock boost. ;-) :bs: Wow, he's 40 rhwp less than my L and a 1000lbs lighter. Wanna race for some cash?:beer:
So since the 3.8 is the motor that Ford should've put in all their peformance cars seeing the potential displayed recently, what is the point where they become unreliable? I know 5.0's are known to come apart around 500rhwp, and since the 3.8 is a shorter version of a 5.0, I'm guessing that number to be in the 350rhp range?
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The stock rods give way around 350.
Thats the same guy i was talking about a while back in this thread. He is a member here but i doubt he gets in here often. Im not saying this guy is telling the truth but it is possible to put out some good power on those little things.
Pretty much. Actually his power is a little high for what he's running, but with so little of these setups around and the amount of variable's present it doesn't really surprise me.
I call BS on the 351 as well, but 300+ on a stock 3.8L motor, with a few bolt ons, isn't that far fetched. Mine was daily driven like that fo what, 2 years now?
I am by no means defending this guy, just clearing up some of the bullshit that's been spewing from some mouths in here...
I am by no means defending this guy, just clearing up some of the bullshit that's been spewing from some mouths in here...
^^do it up...and ALL BLACK 02 couldnt agree with u more..if hes making that much with just a bolt on blower than i too bought the wrong car...ahahah im sorry but no 351rwhp out of one of those 6s..ppl with vortechs on their 6s make like 280 tops just bolting it on with exhaust n shiot...idk i call bs. in before SD, kids a DODO!!!
Again, I made 330/310 with my m112 kit and bolt ons, it's not 351 but just sayin.
Again, I agree with saying 351 is bs especially if it's completely stock and only has the heaton. Another thing to consider, which I believe has already been stated, is 350rwhp is about the max a stock 3.8 can take; some have gone higher but unreliably.
Edit: my point being that sure, you could get a super/turbocharged v6 upto or passed 350 but you would be ob borrowed time whereas with a 4v, you could potentially go higher before needing to mess with internals.
Again, I agree with saying 351 is bs especially if it's completely stock and only has the heaton. Another thing to consider, which I believe has already been stated, is 350rwhp is about the max a stock 3.8 can take; some have gone higher but unreliably.
Edit: my point being that sure, you could get a super/turbocharged v6 upto or passed 350 but you would be ob borrowed time whereas with a 4v, you could potentially go higher before needing to mess with internals.
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read most of the thread. maybe i can give some insight as i also have a v6 with the eaton [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72V8fxV5MgI"]YouTube - Supercharged V6 Mustang[/nomedia]
my cobra would eat the v6 alive, it really wouldnt be funny. now dont get me wrong the v6 is cool and all, it turns heads at shows and it is a huge difference over stock and will surprise a few people on the street but its far from being on the level of a cobra.
i will also say i have never been in a stock cobra like the OP said he would be racing so i dont know how "slow" it would be, i just cant see the v6 keeping up unless there is something wrong with the cobra or he cant drive.
as far as the OP's HP numbers, the highest ive seen was 320 through an auto at 10psi. could be a different dyno or one thats really inflated to give him those numbers. with more boost im sure he could reach it but i know pushing the eaton over 10 psi on the v6 creates way too much heat, it wont survive without an aftercooler and even then your probably above what the engine candle handle safely.
FWIW race him and have fun :beer:
my cobra would eat the v6 alive, it really wouldnt be funny. now dont get me wrong the v6 is cool and all, it turns heads at shows and it is a huge difference over stock and will surprise a few people on the street but its far from being on the level of a cobra.
i will also say i have never been in a stock cobra like the OP said he would be racing so i dont know how "slow" it would be, i just cant see the v6 keeping up unless there is something wrong with the cobra or he cant drive.
as far as the OP's HP numbers, the highest ive seen was 320 through an auto at 10psi. could be a different dyno or one thats really inflated to give him those numbers. with more boost im sure he could reach it but i know pushing the eaton over 10 psi on the v6 creates way too much heat, it wont survive without an aftercooler and even then your probably above what the engine candle handle safely.
FWIW race him and have fun :beer:
Sorry to bump a super old thread, but saw comments about this on another site.
There are a lot of BS posts from people who don't really know crap about the V6 in here. You guys need to get over your 32V set ups and realize there are other ways to get a fast car. In the end, there will always be someone faster than you regardless of the motor/power adder. But saying the V6 isn't able to make more than the crappy centri kits make is just showing how uneducated some people are.
Not saying the OP here makes what he claims, but there are several M112 V6 set ups that would give a bolt on Terminator a run for their money running around the US. I've kicked out over two dozen M112 set ups for people since coming up with it over 6 years ago, and I know Nathan (MySteed) and Super Six Motorsports are still making them for people.
There are a lot of BS posts from people who don't really know crap about the V6 in here. You guys need to get over your 32V set ups and realize there are other ways to get a fast car. In the end, there will always be someone faster than you regardless of the motor/power adder. But saying the V6 isn't able to make more than the crappy centri kits make is just showing how uneducated some people are.
Not saying the OP here makes what he claims, but there are several M112 V6 set ups that would give a bolt on Terminator a run for their money running around the US. I've kicked out over two dozen M112 set ups for people since coming up with it over 6 years ago, and I know Nathan (MySteed) and Super Six Motorsports are still making them for people.
+1
a lot of narrow minded people here, especially when it's against a Cobra.
people cant read, it's a bolt-on with 10 psi and they keep comparing it to a stock v6 with an eaton.
just because some people that have bad set ups and making less power doesnt mean they cant break the 300rwhp mark.
+1
your car is still bad ass. remember seeing it on smokinperformance a few years back.
Ok, I'll bite, you know of anyone with a v6 car like that in the central Texas Area?
My car was in Dallas for a few years awhile back. There are a couple of M112'd V6 cars in the area. Rico was one of them until about a week ago. Sad to see it go in favor of the 4V. His silver "Moch 1" is a favorite car of mine. :rolling: Another one of my customers is in LA, close to the TX boarder. DSG V6 Terminator look alike with GT4 wheels and the blower sticking out of the hood.
There are a few high powered V6 cars running around OKC and Tulsa.
I live in Tulsa...what do these high powered v6s look like? I will be on the lookout.
OK :kaboom: I'll bet we have different definition of high hp car but right on:rockon:
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