2017 GT350 Changes

[Tob]

Some relevance here I suppose. This is dated now but really only popped up yesterday. I'm sure some '16 Tech Pack owners wish they had seen it. I liked it regardless.:coolman:


[video=youtube;pYNQ0OUhq2c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNQ0OUhq2c[/video]

 

[chuckstang]

So what seats come on the Base GT350?

If it is the Recaro's, Im surprised more people did not go that route especially since many on here like to mod even a Shelby Mustang Cobra, etc.

 

[03MUSCLE]

I typically ignore the hell out of you because I refuse to waste my time arguing with [relative to me] children or women. But I would be remiss to let illiteracy go unchecked.

Must be an English 101 teacher............................

 

[DAVESVT2000]

Is the black roof option stop still available for 2017?

 

[GT Premi]

Some relevance here I suppose. This is dated now but really only popped up yesterday. I'm sure some '16 Tech Pack owners wish they had seen it. I liked it regardless.:coolman:


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Interesting that she said the same thing about the different versions and the people who would buy them as I have said before. Some people tried to act like I was from another planet when I said it, though. :shrug:

 

[Lemers]

Interesting that the first thing she talks about is that the GT350 is not a straight line car like the GT500, but inspired by the original Gt350 to achieve ultra fast lap times on the twists and turns of road courses. Showing that every version of this car was advertised for track performance.

 

[DBK]

Interesting that she said the same thing about the different versions and the people who would buy them as I have said before. Some people tried to act like I was from another planet when I said it, though. :shrug:

This is a great illustration of why most people view your posts as useless.

 

[DBK]

.double post

 

[HISSMAN]

They so missed what I want with the '16's. I mean really? Who in their right mind would want all the oil coolers and a touch screen? SMH. At least they are getting it right with the '17. This is one of the things I like best about my '14. I got TP, PP, and a nice stereo with some Recaros to boot.

 

[Tob]

I suppose you can argue it either way. After talking to Jamal about it at the Powertrain Reveal, I had a strong sense that the gauntlet he laid down was one of performance first, luxury second. Historically speaking, the option content limitations make sense, at least as far as the first year or two is concerned. Ford ensured they would get the performance accolades they were looking for. Once that was accomplished, subsequent years could get fatter and lazier, much like what happened with the original GT350. All of which opens the door for new performance variants in later model years as well.

 

[black99lightnin]

I suppose you can argue it either way. After talking to Jamal about it at the Powertrain Reveal, I had a strong sense that the gauntlet he laid down was one of performance first, luxury second. Historically speaking, the option content limitations make sense, at least as far as the first year or two is concerned. Ford ensured they would get the performance accolades they were looking for. Once that was accomplished, subsequent years could get fatter and lazier, much like what happened with the original GT350. All of which opens the door for new performance variants in later model years as well.

The lack of some options especially on the "R" level is consistent with every R varient before it.

 

[GT Premi]

This is a great illustration of why most people view your posts as useless.

And your response was totally valuable. You're just trolling me just because. FYI, the E-bro Platoon does not equal "most people."

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

I like the part where the gt350(r) is like $50-65k and performs like $150k cars, and has luxury like at least 30k cars.

All this bs about failed expectations is the part I look at thinking people are entitled dipshits.

Out performs
-many Aston Martins
-many Maseratti's
-many Porsche's
-many bmw's
-many audi's
-many Mercede's
-many dodge's challengers
-many dodge chargers
-many Camaro's
-a few corvettes

Is close/on par/ or superior in terms of comfort/interior (when properly optioned) with
-some acura's (entry to mid)
-some bmw's (entry to mid)
-some mercede's (entry)
-most kia's and Hyundai's
-most gmc's
-most all chevy's
-most all dodge's


I'm tired of this, everyone knows or doesn't care.

 

[Lemers]

I like the part where the gt350(r) is like $50-65k and performs like $150k cars, and has luxury like at least 30k cars.

All this bs about failed expectations is the part I look at thinking people are entitled dipshits.

Out performs
-many Aston Martins
-many Maseratti's
-many Porsche's
-many bmw's
-many audi's
-many Mercede's
-many dodge's challengers
-many dodge chargers
-many Camaro's
-a few corvettes

Is close/on par/ or superior in terms of comfort/interior (when properly optioned) with
-some acura's (entry to mid)
-some bmw's (entry to mid)
-some mercede's (entry)
-most kia's and Hyundai's
-most gmc's
-most all chevy's
-most all dodge's


I'm tired of this, everyone knows or doesn't care.

I really don't follow what you are saying or if you are taking a side.

But I have an issue with expectations, and here is why:

Everything that came out about this car was picked apart (like a lot of cars).

When the rumor of Ford using the GT350 name, everyone starting talking about the replacement for the Boss as the track mustang.

When the power/torque numbers came out people griped about the overall torque and then how the curve looked. The response was that for a "track car" the power came in where you needed it and was a wide curve for track use.

When the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile speeds came in. People were that underwhelming and poor performance. Again the counter argument was "it's a track car not a drag car"

When the options came out most people complained that you couldn't get both track and tech. The consensus was that the track pack was for serious track drivers and tech package could get by on occasional track day events.

Chevy introduces the new SS and 1LE and says it's faster than the GT350, and the forum experts start talking about only in certain situations lag drag racing but it couldn't be faster on a road course.

NOW, with the Limp mode issue regarding base/tech package cars people are defending Ford like they work there. They are acting like ford was upfront and "managed our expectations" when in reality Ford never said that the Gt350 was any less of a track car than the Mustang GT or Camaro SS.

The base GT350 is not a base mustang by any measurement and the Tech GT350 is not a luxury car the Ford Defenders pretend it is. They are different levels of track capable street cars as is any other version of the GT350.

 

[Tob]

The lack of some options especially on the "R" level is consistent with every R varient before it.

The R is essentially unobtainable so I don't consider it a real world option. That leaves the Tech or the Track Pack. Or the '17...

 

[DAVESVT2000]

What about the black roof option, anyone know ?

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

I really don't follow what you are saying or if you are taking a side.

But I have an issue with expectations, and here is why:

Everything that came out about this car was picked apart (like a lot of cars).

When the rumor of Ford using the GT350 name, everyone starting talking about the replacement for the Boss as the track mustang.

When the power/torque numbers came out people griped about the overall torque and then how the curve looked. The response was that for a "track car" the power came in where you needed it and was a wide curve for track use.

When the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile speeds came in. People were that underwhelming and poor performance. Again the counter argument was "it's a track car not a drag car"

When the options came out most people complained that you couldn't get both track and tech. The consensus was that the track pack was for serious track drivers and tech package could get by on occasional track day events.

Chevy introduces the new SS and 1LE and says it's faster than the GT350, and the forum experts start talking about only in certain situations lag drag racing but it couldn't be faster on a road course.

NOW, with the Limp mode issue regarding base/tech package cars people are defending Ford like they work there. They are acting like ford was upfront and "managed our expectations" when in reality Ford never said that the Gt350 was any less of a track car than the Mustang GT or Camaro SS.

The base GT350 is not a base mustang by any measurement and the Tech GT350 is not a luxury car the Ford Defenders pretend it is. They are different levels of track capable street cars as is any other version of the GT350.

Opinions are all for their own beholder. I haven't swayed yours, you haven't swayed mine.

The nice thing is when people can just flatly agree to disagree and not be rude or upity. Why do some people create all the fuss? People act like gods own word is on trial. I get rowdy when I see people bash the car, no question, but I don't think the car is really a let down at all. I grind out a lot from my self in my professional life, and live reasonably modestly, maybe I haven't had it easy enough to feel that ford is crooked or really making a killin on these types of cars. I do openly hate the entitled outlook so many people are adopting so I quickly snap when I perceive it is happening. I stand up for good work, and I think the gt350 is a good piece of work.

I wasn't calling anyone out particularly, I was saying in general, I see it like this. Flatly I don't find room for much complaint. Just my opinion.

On a side note, I like the 2016 gt350 overall ordering system much more than the 15/16. I have said from square one that it's a mistake to segment the buyer vs facilitate their desire. (Newly poetic and catchy, but previously my context was the same)

 

[Chris!]

And your response was totally valuable. You're just trolling me just because. FYI, the E-bro Platoon does not equal "most people."

Yes let's continue ****ing with the one person on this person that knows more than anyone else on this forum about this car.

Lots of tact there.

 

[cluscher]

tech package could get by on occasional track day event.

I don't understand what this means. A track day is a track day. Track days push the car far beyond anything street driving can push, and at the end of the day it is what it is. The number of times you go doesn't matter how the car will perform on a given day. Ford specified the track pack configuration for track days and they said as much. A tech pack car is an awesomely fun and livable street machine, and it was touted as such. Different cars for different buyers. The '16 packaging is what it is and we were forced to choose.

 

[ON D BIT]

Yes let's continue ****ing with the one person on this person that knows more than anyone else on this forum about this car.

Lots of tact there.

Because he puts his opinions above stats, facts, and actual information. That's why he is better.

I don't understand what this means. A track day is a track day. Track days push the car far beyond anything street driving can push, and at the end of the day it is what it is. The number of times you go doesn't matter how the car will perform on a given day. Ford specified the track pack configuration for track days and they said as much. A tech pack car is an awesomely fun and livable street machine, and it was touted as such. Different cars for different buyers. The '16 packaging is what it is and we were forced to choose.

A tech car can survive the occasional track day, based on the suspension and engineering that is already put into the car. Just as the mustang gt can as well. Where the track pack comes into play is cooling and getting the drivetrain ready to attack the track again with less down time. It's better conditioned for the track but being without it can't keep it off the track.