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Haven’t had the news on all weekend, but I thought in addition to the BP Agent that was hit, two locals were shot in the first minutes.

Maybe that was bad info as well but not sure how you **** that up lol.


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from what i remember reading/hearing, 2 locals were ”graced” when they first gave chase on the very fist set of minutes after the turd got there…. After that… none.
 

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from what i remember reading/hearing, 2 locals were ”graced” when they first gave chase on the very fist set of minutes after the turd got there…. After that… none.

Not accurate. Team that breached with a shield was hit.

Weren’t you in the military or maybe I’m thinking of someone else?


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Haven’t had the news on all weekend, but I thought in addition to the BP Agent that was hit, two locals were shot in the first minutes.

Maybe that was bad info as well but not sure how you **** that up lol.


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Yes.

Cops exchanged gunfire with the suspect at the classroom door and two of them were grazed by bullets. That's when they retreated.
 

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Not accurate. Team that breached with a shield was hit.

Weren’t you in the military or maybe I’m thinking of someone else?


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Huh? I basically agreed with your previous statement of “2 locals were shot in the first minutes”. Thats what i just stated… lol.

I wasnt aware of the BP guy taking a hit? Im guessing that he was part of the crew that finally advanced on the killer…

Yes. I was… although I don't go around advertising it, so not sure what that has to do with anything…
 

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Yes.

Cops exchanged gunfire with the suspect at the classroom door and two of them were grazed by bullets. That's when they retreated.

Yes. Thats exactly what I was just saying…

Wasnt aware of anyone on the breach team getting hit….
 

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Guess that’s where we differ
I guess so.

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Huh? I basically agreed with your previous statement of “2 locals were shot in the first minutes”. Thats what i just stated… lol.

I wasnt aware of the BP guy taking a hit? Im guessing that he was part of the crew that finally advanced on the killer…

Yes. I was… although I don't go around advertising it, so not sure what that has to do with anything…

Believe he took one across his skull and someone or maybe him hit in a lower extremity.

I guess I figured if you were in the military, that maybe you’d done CQB training so you’d know what the score would be if you’re trying to breach a door while someone is holding a bead on it.

If what I’m getting is correct, they tried, failed. Eventually used the key with a ballistic shield and still were hit.


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Believe he took one across his skull and someone or maybe him hit in a lower extremity.

I guess I figured if you were in the military, that maybe you’d done CQB training so you’d know what the score would be if you’re trying to breach a door while someone is holding a bead on it.

If what I’m getting is correct, they tried, failed. Eventually used the key with a ballistic shield and still were hit.


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so the BP breach guy took a hit to the skull (5.56/.223) along with a hit to LE? Still alive? Because normally, your head will ****ing explode like tossing a watermelon down to the ground… i didnt hear all that… Have a link to that info?

I have done CQB training. But CQB training or not, that is besides the point, regarding what i just had stated…. i stated what I had heard reported in regards to injuries to officers on scene…. the BP guy getting hit is news to me.

Getting hit/wounded while breaching will be very dependent on how those dudes attacked the entry and what gear and tactics they used, which im not privy too…
 

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I think you and I both know that “zero effort” is street slag for “most cops on scene didnt honor what the **** they swore to / embarrassed TX”….

I haven’t made a judgement yet.

From what I know, 2 were hit immediately trying to get in the door.

From there, they didn’t have the equipment available. Breaching tools and a shield.

I’m sure some cops felt helpless in the hallway, how couldn’t you.

FYI 19 cops in a hallway is a disaster.

Only 1 or 2 can hold the corner and they already knew they couldn’t breach the door.


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I haven’t made a judgement yet.

From what I know, 2 were hit immediately trying to get in the door.

From there, they didn’t have the equipment available. Breaching tools and a shield.

I’m sure some cops felt helpless in the hallway, how couldn’t you.

FYI 19 cops in a hallway is a disaster.

Only 1 or 2 can hold the corner and they already knew they couldn’t breach the door.


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I forget… You are a cop or BP?

I hear you man, you have a bit of skin in the game… You wanna wait as long as possible before “judgement”. I cant blame you, Id do the same.

Problem with that is… your own people that were on scene have already spoken on it. Their leadership has spoken on it. Then there is us (lowly public) learning that the gaggle**** outisde of the classroom DID know that it was indeed an active shooter scenario for well into an hour…

Its just not a good look for LE to sit nice and safe without taking damage while children are indeed being actively slaughtered… naw meen, jelly bean?
 

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I forget… You are a cop or BP?

I hear you man, you have a bit of skin in the game… You wanna wait as long as possible before “judgement”. I cant blame you, Id do the same.

Problem with that is… your own people that were on scene have already spoken on it. Their leadership has spoken on it. Then there is us (lowly public) learning that the gaggle**** outisde of the classroom DID know that it was indeed an active shooter scenario for well into an hour…

Its just not a good look for LE to sit nice and safe without taking damage while children are indeed being actively slaughtered… naw meen, jelly bean?

BP.

Unless we’re getting bad info, people were hit trying to take door immediately.

So let’s stop saying they were safe for now.

If you can’t get in the door, all you can do is hold the hallway from the corner.


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