Nitrous C6 Z06 vs 2.9 Whipple GT500

[FastOldGuy52]

i think you confusing the term purpose built here. purpose built is what the GT500 does at the drag only. god forbid the Z slacks in one area, and still isnt to shabby their imo...
the Z is basically in the form of a supercar's direction, without a name to lean on like lambo, ferrari or whatever, and build quality also, but your arguing the 31k price difference like all that money was devoted to making the Z a drag car only.:shrug: it isnt restricted to one area

Never said that. But you must admit little [but expensive] things like carbon fiber weight reduction help in more than just one area. Designing a sports car from the ground up allows for proper weight distribution etc. Those things help with acceleration no matter what kind of track the Z is on.

The GT 500 is just a pony car with a nice engine and tranny and lots of potential. That is the reason it can be sold for 31K less than the Z. That is also the reason the Z has a big built in advantage. As I said before in general it takes money to make a car go really fast. That money can be spent before the car hits the showroom floor or after it leaves the showroom floor or both. You can start bragging about the Z when their opponents have the same amount of go fast money invested and the Z still out performs them. Z06 are very nice cars and I will probably buy one soon. Z06 can be beat it just takes 125-150 more horsepower to the ground than the Z06 has to compensate for the weight advantage. Fortunately that isn't all that hard to do with forced induction.

 

[mustangbee]

Never said that. But you must admit little [but expensive] things like carbon fiber weight reduction help in more than just one area. Designing a sports car from the ground up allows for proper weight distribution etc. Those things help with acceleration no matter what kind of track the Z is on.

The GT 500 is just a pony car with a nice engine and tranny and lots of potential. That is the reason it can be sold for 31K less than the Z. That is also the reason the Z has a big built in advantage. As I said before in general it takes money to make a car go really fast. That money can be spent before the car hits the showroom floor or after it leaves the showroom floor or both. You can start bragging about the Z when their opponents have the same amount of go fast money invested and the Z still out performs them. Z06 are very nice cars and I will probably buy one soon. Z06 can be beat it just takes 125-150 more horsepower to the ground than the Z06 has to compensate for the weight advantage. Fortunately that isn't all that hard to do with forced induction.

bro, the Z already does. i understand your mindset is limited to drag in terms of performance-thats fine, but thats probably the Zs worst forum. it actually performs better after the 1/4 mile range and on the road course.
your comparing a certain cars best area to another car's worst. sure being lighter and having grunt etc etc helps, but its not a drag car, its a sports car, more in the area of the Ford GT in terms of performance. well rounded vs. streamlined against the GT500


It takes alot more money to create a car that rivals the european's best performers for less, much less...the Z isnt perfect, but it stand alone as a cheap, supercar like performer

 

[FastOldGuy52]

bro, the Z already does. i understand your mindset is limited to drag in terms of performance-thats fine, but thats probably the Zs worst forum. it actually performs better after the 1/4 mile range and on the road course.
your comparing a certain cars best area to another car's worst. sure being lighter and having grunt etc etc helps, but its not a drag car, its a sports car, more in the area of the Ford GT in terms of performance. well arounded vs. streamlined

My interest at the moment and the topic of this thread is drag racing. Bro the Z doesn't out preform a GT 500 with 10K of mods on a 1/4 mile track...I can tell you that for a fact and that is the subject here.. Good the FORD GT out preforms the z why? Because cause it is a purpose built from the ground up sports car with lots of go fast dollars invested in it before it saw the showroom floor.

 

[steele501]

yes, i think so. used c6z's in the low/mid 40's are an amazing value, as is low 30's for an equal year gt500. financially speaking, buying/owning a performance car is a "lose lose" situation. just pick out the one you want and can afford and try to enjoy it :beer:

touche:rolling:

 

[jgheels2003]

I ask this to the Z owners. If a GT500 weighed 3200 lbs, and was stock, what would happen?

If a GT500 weighed 3200lbs and was stock, you could then put your foot through its door too )) with all the weight/reiniforcement/sound deadening you'd have to remove, not to mention everything else. You'd be lucky to even hit that goal. If Ford wanted to do that from the start, your GT500 would be a different car all together. Whats the point of this???????????????????

I agree, don't argue price just b/c a car loses a race it didn't have a chance to win. But throwing around the above theory is just as lame and unrealistic.

 

[mustangbee]

My interest at the moment and the topic of this thread is drag racing. Bro the Z doesn't out preform a GT 500 with 10K of mods on a 1/4 mile track...I can tell you that for a fact and that is the subject here.. Good the FORD GT out preforms the z why? Because cause it is a purpose built from the ground up sports car with lots of go fast dollars invested in it before it saw the showroom floor.

actually, the video i just saw was a roll race, not drag...sure whenever we see a vette destroy a mustang the conversion well revert to a mustang's strength on a SVT site


the GT500 doesnt outperform a foxbody, sti, evo, camaro with 10k of mods, who cares. you can throw that out their all you want, we've beat that horse dead so many times on here. you act like we only have 2 options.

i understand the Ford GT is the BETTER care IMO, but it barely outperforms the Z man, thats my point. the Z stretches FAR beyond its pricetag in terms of overall performance, hell the FGT is well priced..not everything is just a drag/muscle car

 

[FastOldGuy52]

actually, the video i just saw was a roll race, not drag...sure whenever we see a vette destroy a mustang the conversion well revert to a mustang's strength on a SVT site


the GT500 doesnt outperform a foxbody, sti, evo, camaro with 10k of mods, who cares. you can throw that out their all you want, we've beat that horse dead so many times on here. you act like we only have 2 options.

i understand the Ford GT is the BETTER care IMO, but it barely outperforms the Z man, thats my point. the Z stretches FAR beyond its pricetag in terms of overall performance, hell the FGT is well priced..not everything is just a drag/muscle car

 

[obZidian]

Have you guys ever seen a Nitrous Eaton GT500/Cobra..cheap and probably just as fast or even faster then a whipple or kennebell because of the cooling effects....my GT500 with a intake/2.6Upper Pulley making 520whp would stay neck and neck with a stock c6 z06......and intake/tune c6 z06 would pull about 2.5-3 cars......so i'd say a GT500 making 580whp on blower and a 150shot should keep up with a intake/tune/150shot C6 Z06....you guys have to remember that the powerband on a nitrous car is all about power under the curve

Hey, stop talking shit you mojon... you stayed even with a stock c6 z06 with 300 miles... barely broken.... race me again, im still stock with 5k miles.

Oh, thats right... you sold your gt500... for what? A vette!

Pendejo!!!

 

[c6zhombre]

the c6z's dig race incredibly well. they are not bonzai top end cars only. they will cut amazing 60ft/330ft/660ft times for any given hp/tq number

 

[z-eater]

you are correct, I was just pointing out that a stock c6z has run 10's, just like he was pointing out stock gt500's have run low 12's. it doesnt happen often, but it has happened. aside from what everyone else has ran, I'm only interested in what he can run in his gt500, with relatively no performance upgrades.

just for the record, I love gt500's. they quite possibly posses the 2nd best engine that has ever been put in a stock car, behind the 2JZ. I just hate that they take sooo much extra power to compensate for the remaining deficiencies.

I have personally driven a 600whp gt500, and it was a blast. it felt like it was significantly faster than my intake/headers z, but moments later I hoped back into my z and destroyed it with only 480whp, and I mean it wasnt even close

both cars are awesome, much can be enjoyed from both, but for a true sports/performance car the C6Z owns the GT500 in virtually every category, including price (which it should).

100% agree. gt500 is a heavy car and it will take a lot to beat stock Z06 from a roll.

 

[brainpa]

Less Weight= Free Horsepower.

 

[03cobrarocks]

Less Weight= Free Horsepower.

x1000

wonder who has the lightest gt500 and how much it weights?

 

[obZidian]

Honestly, at the end of the day, a given car will need a certain amount of hp to compete... hp now is so easy to develop, especially with the 4.6/5.4 supercharged motors.

 

[SCBQQSTN]

Honestly, at the end of the day, a given car will need a certain amount of hp to compete... hp now is so easy to develop, especially with the 4.6/5.4 supercharged motors.

i concur

 

[C6Z06427]

Damn a 150 shot. That is really pushing the limits on the stock internals and any damn good tuner shop out there will tell you that.... Be curious to see how long this motor holds up

 

[F8l Vnm]

Damn a 150 shot. That is really pushing the limits on the stock internals and any damn good tuner shop out there will tell you that.... Be curious to see how long this motor holds up

Actually a few guys on corvette forums running 7-8 Boost (vortech , procharged)with over 600 rwhp safely..Obviously good 93+ gas helps..
My buddy has been spraying his 59k 06Z for almost 2 years now...125 shot and no issues. It can be done though:beer:

 

[Boosted T-4]

c6 Z06's are nasty. I will own one someday.

 

[obZidian]

Damn a 150 shot. That is really pushing the limits on the stock internals and any damn good tuner shop out there will tell you that.... Be curious to see how long this motor holds up

This is a huge misconception. This motors, with a proper tune, can take a 150-200shot all day. for a 200 and beyond... tune a bit more conservative and use race fuel. It works, simple.. and these cars in fourth gear with a 200-300 shot are just nasty.

I have seen, locally, about 3-4 cars running 200+ shots and as long as they weren't greedy, the pistons held out fine. (If anything, the piston is the weak link... its a lightweight, N/A piston not meant to take much heat due to the weight saving.)

 

[sfadchi]

This is a huge misconception. This motors, with a proper tune, can take a 150-200shot all day. for a 200 and beyond... tune a bit more conservative and use race fuel. It works, simple.. and these cars in fourth gear with a 200-300 shot are just nasty.

I have seen, locally, about 3-4 cars running 200+ shots and as long as they weren't greedy, the pistons held out fine. (If anything, the piston is the weak link... its a lightweight, N/A piston not meant to take much heat due to the weight saving.)

Well just so everyone knows the final outcome of the story, I have added some new things to my car, including a 75Shot of NOS. However, the owner of the Z06 is no longer able to race me due to his block being cracked from a 200Shot! I'm not sure these engines hold up like people think they do. Here is a direct quote from the street racing site I'm a member of.

Yes guys i am getting rip off the zo6 because it cracked the block,,

I rather buy it cheap Cobra and built the shit out of it and make over 1000RWHP and not worry about the block cracking or something like that,, specially a 43 + K$$$ car like the z06 i have.. so that's where i Stand Now>>>> mustang Cobra fully built kenne bell and turbo it's the way to go , if it blows up 2k will fix your cobra if you do the labor yourself, i'll let Nory follow up with this Comment he knows what i am talkng about..

And yes i am in the look for a 03/04 Terminator,, i am only looking to spend not more than 15k Cash, Because i still need to buy the mass of bolt ons and CP internals; so if anyone knows about a cheap cobra please hit me with the info anytime>>> one more thing No Fake Cobras or clones, they Are Not In My Menu...

 

[stangliter04]

Epic! Not that his C6Z isn't badass but once you start the modding it can get pricey.