You sure about that? Got anything to back that up because in the real world the 302 ls can't even keep up and its running r comps.
2014 GT M6 vs. Camaro ZL1
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You sure about that? Got anything to back that up because in the real world the 302 ls can't even keep up and its running r comps.
Correction, it goes to 5.0 owners as well, hell all type of car owners. Seen it and heard it from a bunch of people on different types of cars.
The ZL1 was a flop...
Chevy themselves pulled the "Z/28" badge from the ZL1 because, in their words, it wasn't worthy of the name. Obviously it wasn't change for legal contention and OEM requirements in Motorsport...
Simply, the 2012 ZL1 missed the mark (benched on the 2011 GT500).
Remember, it can run 11's all day, everyday...
Chevy themselves pulled the "Z/28" badge from the ZL1 because, in their words, it wasn't worthy of the name. Obviously it wasn't change for legal contention and OEM requirements in Motorsport...
Simply, the 2012 ZL1 missed the mark (benched on the 2011 GT500).
Remember, it can run 11's all day, everyday...
Yeah, because that just makes soo much sense. GM obviously hates the car. How can you pull something that didn't even happen? You act like the ZL1 was originally released as a Z28 to the public then they renamed it after it was out.
The ignorance coming from some of you is strong in this thread, and I can't tell if it's trolling or not. If you are, touché. You're doing a fine job.
Nobody says you have to like the car or buy it. But just because the GT500 is faster on the street in stock form, doesn't take away from the ZL1. They do respond to mods and it doesn't take much to get some serious power out of them.
You act like its got the performance of a Prius and it's going against a Bugatti veyron or some crazy shit. With a good driver and sticky tires, it shouldn't have any problems at all running into the 11's and being consistent with the auto trans.
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Yeah, because that just makes soo much sense. GM obviously hates the car. How can you pull something that didn't even happen? You act like the ZL1 was originally released as a Z28 to the public then they renamed it after it was out.
I think it WAS actually renamed though BEFORE it was released to the public. However, I agree with you 100% though. If it wasn't the name when it was released, it can't be pulled. IF they had gone to market with it, had them on sale, THEN made the change, I would disagree with you....though that would probably mean agreeing with you again, because I think you'd agree that would be pulling it in that case. And I've gone cross-eyed. :dw:
The ignorance coming from some of you is strong in this thread, and I can't tell if it's trolling or not. If you are, touché. You're doing a fine job.
I lol'd.
Nobody says you have to like the car or buy it. But just because the GT500 is faster on the street in stock form, doesn't take away from the ZL1. They do respond to mods and it doesn't take much to get some serious power out of them.
I don't think the argument is whether or not the engine in the car is capable of making power. I'd actually argue that it is. I think the bigger issue is GM overpromised/under-delivered with the car, yet owners act like the car is the second coming or something. I think it's the attitude of the owners that cause the car to be hated. That, and you can have a supercharged SS for FAR less cash with very similar performance, though not with a warranty.
You act like its got the performance of a Prius and it's going against a Bugatti veyron or some crazy shit. With a good driver and sticky tires, it shouldn't have any problems at all running into the 11's and being consistent with the auto trans.
Again, I speak just for me, but I can't stand those cars due to the owners and the fact that GM promised something they did not deliver on.
This is normally the point where I say something rational like, "Besides, there are far worse cars to be had." However, when it comes to the ZL1, I'm not rational and still have to say I think it is a turd.
I just hate those cars. But that's my opinion. Yours could be 100% opposite and I would respect it. :beer:
And hopefully I didn't do anything considered to be trolling either. Though I STILL say the GT500 is the better car.
Sorry to have broken apart your post like that, but you hit a lot of good points. Think of it as more of a compliment. :beer:
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If this was 2010, the ZL1 would be more impressive. It's a barely warmed over CTS-V, and the bar has been raised. Don't get yourself wet over the ZL1 son, and by all means don't start the modded argument. C'mon now :nonono:.
Why hate the car if you don't even own one? They run right with the 2010-12 GT500 are those turds to then? For a 4200lb car they hold there own pretty damn good and are a hell of a track car and can run high 11s stock. I remember when the first gen GT500s were running 13s and mid 12s to me that's a turd if iv'e ever seen one. But that's your opinion good for you
Why hate the car if you don't even own one? They run right with the 2010-12 GT500 are those turds to then? For a 4200lb car they hold there own pretty damn good and are a hell of a track car and can run high 11s stock. I remember when the first gen GT500s were running 13s and mid 12s to me that's a turd if iv'e ever seen one. But that's your opinion good for you
Bro, this is SVT. Someone in Pics & Vids said a 458 is incredibly slow in stock form:nonono: I love the ZL1, SHELBY and SRT8, not a bad word about either from me.
Sick03Vert
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Ferrari 458 Italia....slow? Yeah.....ok. Whoever that was isn't the brightest.
Nice comparison write up. From everything I've read and seen , your review is spot on. Everything except the interior. To me the Camaro interior looks like plastic garbage compared to the Mustang.
Don't start a modded argument? How many people who actively post on forums actually own a completely stock car? Check out your own sig. Why are we comparing stock to stock and acting like it's the only thing that's ever going to matter? Yes, the GT500 shouldn't have any problems taking a ZL1 in the 1/4 mile or on a highway with equal drivers. But how many people own completely stock cars that are willing to race them? Or have no intentions of modding it? It honestly wouldn't take that much for a ZL1 to run with a new GT500 on the street either.
Again, I speak just for me, but I can't stand those cars due to the owners and the fact that GM promised something they did not deliver on.
This is normally the point where I say something rational like, "Besides, there are far worse cars to be had." However, when it comes to the ZL1, I'm not rational and still have to say I think it is a turd.
I just hate those cars. But that's my opinion. Yours could be 100% opposite and I would respect it. :beer:
And hopefully I didn't do anything considered to be trolling either. Though I STILL say the GT500 is the better car.
Sorry to have broken apart your post like that, but you hit a lot of good points. Think of it as more of a compliment. :beer:
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You are taking that post out of context, notice he said both cars would beat it? Its because somebody said a 458 should run those car and he said the 458 is slow and would lose
You also have to understand a 458 isn't a straight line car and considering his stable I am sure to him a 458 is slow in a straight line compared to his other cars
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Sick03Vert
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A Ferrari 458 isn't slow.
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458s have gone 10s bone stock, at 130mph or slightly better. Not slow by any means.
Seems crazy. It would seem more likely if it was a modded 5.0. Even if it was just intake, tune and exhaust.
As far as heat soak they don't get heat soaked cruising on the interstate with air moving over the HE at 70mph. It happens when you are sitting in stop and go traffic or doing multiple pulls and getting into high boost for a couple gears. Everyone acts like these get heat soaked pulling out of the driveway and that's not the case.
You can also take the driver error out of the argument unless he started in 5th gear it doesn't take a ton of skill to do a highway pull through two gears. I haven't had the experience of driving a ZL1 but it still seems unlikely when you look at the numbers stock vs stock
As far as heat soak they don't get heat soaked cruising on the interstate with air moving over the HE at 70mph. It happens when you are sitting in stop and go traffic or doing multiple pulls and getting into high boost for a couple gears. Everyone acts like these get heat soaked pulling out of the driveway and that's not the case.
You can also take the driver error out of the argument unless he started in 5th gear it doesn't take a ton of skill to do a highway pull through two gears. I haven't had the experience of driving a ZL1 but it still seems unlikely when you look at the numbers stock vs stock
Good kill op. Also that GT in the video linked above moves out! I really thought the ZL1's were faster than that.
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