Madlock
Thanks for all the great info.
x2. Thanks, Madlock! :beer:
Madlock
Thanks for all the great info.
You mean beside the one I've ordered?
Boy. I'd REALLY be careful making "inside information" assumptions. Attribute at your own risk.
From a purely business case perspective, Ford is far likelier to cut loose whatever GT500s may have been made if overall S197 stocks exceed the gameplan. From this point forward, plus perhaps another few hundred, I'd personally consider any further builds to be a pleasant (or not) surprise with any further orders being subject to cancellation - allocated or not.
LoL...well put another way Madlock...you have access to information most on here do not. And I have no reason to doubt that information. We all appreciate you sharing!
And you and I seem to be thinking along the same lines. You are now thinking that besides a few hundred more, any future orders beyond that probably won't get built. All I can logically project is that based on your current production numbers and the known allocations that have already been scheduled/built the total allocation for MY14 Shelby GT500 was approximately only 3,500 cars. I further believe that number is true because I recall this number some months ago as a projection someone had stated they had heard (Iceman, Chris...someone). But as you said, Ford may decide to build a few more over that original allocated number if they still have the production capacity and Shelby specific parts laying around as MY14 winds down or they may not if there are too many sitting around.
I still believe total production of the MY13/MY14 Shelby will be 9,000 cars or less. Less than half the total production of the MY03/MY04 SVT Cobra.
No such cars exist, unless it also includes the car cover. 1ZVBP8JZXE5242186
Indeed, it is! :beer:...sometimes it's easy to forget that just being in the position to have this kind of "dilemma" is a pretty terrific place to be in the first place.
Once again, thanks for all the info you provide.
One thing I wonder about though...
Anybody else find it odd/silly that we have to speculate if a mass-production car manufacturer will build to fill already sold retail orders for a $60K+ vehicle...
Updated revised totals for the scheduled builds through the end of June are 2,449 Coupes and 493 Convertibles. Just 8 shy of 3,000 - which makes for a VERY healthy number given the particular point in the 2014 MY campaign.
Quick update. Just noted a huge leap in forward scheduling with GT500 builds on apparent hiatus from the holiday weekend until July 29 as the first day of resumption.
That strips out as many as 600 units or capacity by time between now and S197's sunset. Of course, much or all of this was prescheduled summer downtime and none of it may reflect any deviation from Ford's square one agenda. But there WILL be an early-mid August lull in deliveries (likely of all S197 flavors) before the last round of allocations and build-out are made.
I'll leave any further speculation to the calendar watchers and mathematical reverse engineers.
I live in Rhode Island, My local dealer indicated that Ford rep gave them an additional allocation and I was told that the order needed to be replaced by this Tuesday 6/25/13 by 5pm To get the order scheduled and it would show in the system on Friday. :??:
I placed an order for 2014 Shelby GT 500 convertible, 821, ruby red, white stripes, recaro's, navigation, shaker pro...
After reading all the posts I'm concerned that maybe my car will not get built?:fm:
If the dealer doesn't fact have an allocation how long does it typically take to get an order scheduled and a vin number? :idea:
No, not at all, actually - since GT500 is a product that's only built because it can be accommodated within the manufacturing infrastructure of every other kind of Mustang which comprise about 95% of all Mustangs produced.
There's lots of reasons that would take too long to explain here, but let's just leave it with GM proved how much money can be lost by building and selling as many cars as possible - rather than manufacturing to actual demand for product that's sold for maximum profit on a manufacturer's terms.
MORE than half of Ford's resurgence from worst to first has come from identifying the trade it DIDN'T want to serve, aggressively abandoning it and maintaining strict discipline despite whatever handful of additional profitable volume it may leave on the table - which has ensured that any volume gains have been purely additive and profitable rather than erosive and cannibalistic.
It's also important to remember that no Ford customer is flakier than a GT500 shopper when it comes to actually following through on orders advance deposits or no. Ford knows what inventories are versus what's built with the difference being what's sold. They know how many days' supply of overall cars exist - and dealers will be resourceful among themselves in terms of arranging to get cars to dealers without cars who have willing customers from dealers with cars but no customers.
But even that's secondary to how many thousands more GT500s Ford would need to sell to make all the downstream consequences pay-off of moving cadences, compelling suppliers to perform and everything else that'd be required. This was one of the first myths Mulally dispelled when he first came to Detroit back in 2006 and GM and Chrysler were scoffing at the notion because a "non-car person" couldn't possibly understand the complexities of operating a global auto making enterprise.
When someone once made the mistake of trying to patronize his insistence upon looking at the manufacturing of automobiles first and foremost like any OTHER business by telling him something to the effect of, "I'm not sure you fully appreciate how complex building a product with thousands of moving parts from dozens of vendors can be." Having just finished doing for Boeing's commercial airplane division what he has since done for Ford, he simply replied to the effect of, "I just ran a company that made products comprised of millions of moving parts from thousands of vendors - that also needed to stay airborne. I think I'll figure out this too."
Nobody within the industry has underestimated him since.
I was hoping it was one of those two, as they both have great relationships with Ford. You should feel confident with Flood