Just like i said Hook Line and Sinker
Is it on a build sheet to order? Just asking?
Jeep playing the game. Bronco launch is comming tons of people will be pre ordering and jeep sales will take some loss.
Overall the Bronco will be a better vehicle
392 Wrangler.
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Just like i said Hook Line and Sinker
Is it on a build sheet to order? Just asking?
Jeep playing the game. Bronco launch is comming tons of people will be pre ordering and jeep sales will take some loss.
Overall the Bronco will be a better vehicle
Sure but i spent about 30k on my truck and it may not be a 80k superduty, it’s still a decent chunk of change that could have went to a ford dealer.
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch type of thing, I get you but at least jeep is showing that they are listening to their base.
Doesn't matter because you still dont get it. Ford doesn't sell used vehicles. They sell new ones. Dealerships sell used vehicles
I dont completely disagree jeep does a better job selling to there base, but they still provide crappy brakes, motor, daily driving comfort.
Maybe, but people aren’t buying jeeps because of ride quality or brakes.
The bronco will just be a warmed over dirt road cruiser with some fancy gadgets. The people that will buy the bronco will most likely care about mall crawling and less about off-roading but I still don’t think it will take away from jeep sales because people don’t want some off-brand jeep they want a jeep.
I take that back, it won’t be an off brand jeep, it will be an off brand Toyota.
I think you are mostly correct about all that. But there will be people that switch just to see how they like it. If you remember the bronco in the 60s was no slouch and to get one today cost a pretty penny.
Big/huge/massive difference between the 392 being discussed in this thread and a Hellcat motor.
This bronco and the bronco from back then are not similar aside from the top and doors coming off.
I really wanted to like the bronco but the ifs is an absolute deal breaker for me. When people start wanting to lift these things and they realized how much lifting an ifs ****ing blows and how expensive it’s going to be, they’re probably not going to do it.
That’s probably why ford is allowing it to fit almost 35s stock because not many will lift them.
And an ifs blows off-road unless you have real deep pockets. Watch some videos of the new jeep Cherokee trail hawk off-road, it will give you an idea how this bronco will do.
just a spoiler, it’s ****ing laughable.
just a spoiler, it’s ****ing laughable.
I wanted Ford truck last summer when my ST was totaled. $50k for a basic 4x4 crew with no options did not work for me. Then I wanted the 2 dr Rubicon but in 8 years it had gone up nearly $15k. Looked at the scat but wanted the wide body 6 months away.
This left the Tacoma TRD off road at $4k+ off brand new it was sold. Now a year into ownership and 20k miles I see my error even if it did save me $10k+.
Today the new bronco would be mine but it’s too damn late. Jeep wouldn’t deal and at $50k+ it’s too close in price for me to pass on the $55k Tremor!
Now just the wait....
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Sounds like you are all over the place and are finally getting what you originally wanted. Good for you!
Personally I think this is true all the way down the line. I don't think this 392 wrangler ( if it will even make it into production) will be a better over all vehicle over the top trim bronco
I don't think the trx will be better than the Gen 3 raptor and there is not a single challenger better than the GT500.
I have bought at least 11 new Ford vehicles over the years between myself and my wife. While 11 units in the big scheme of things is nothing, Ford is getting no more of my money.
I recently bought the wife a new MB, I am done the the Ford attitude, either they build products I want or I will buy from those manufacturers that do. FCA is a good example of a manufacturer that listens to the performance crowd and I will likely support them when it comes to my next purchase for myself.
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Ford has show themselves in the foot the last 5 years, trying to get stock price higher. Stock is still low and now they’re losing loyal customers. Not a good combo.
They will find a way to coexist just fine. Jeep has a disproportionate market share, so it would be foolish to think at least some buyers won’t make the switch. It’s a growing segment, and unless Ford completely fumbles this, the Bronco will get it’s fair share. Wrangler basically sells out every year for top $ and huge profits. No reason both can’t be wildly successful.
Each will have their + and -. Competition is good for the breeds.
Choose whichever one speaks to you.
Each will have their + and -. Competition is good for the breeds.
Choose whichever one speaks to you.
Well said. Everyone acts like it will be a zero-sum game when reality has always shown equal existence in the past. One comes out as the clear sales winner but the others get enough to justify their need to exist.
Ruined my night... I came here for uniformed banter and outlandish accusations and standards being applied. 0/10 would not read again, lmao.
The v6 is a turd IMO.
I drove a bone stock 2.0 turbo 2 door on the factory ~31's and it drove FANTASTIC. I was actually very surprised. They have figured out how make a small dump truck somewhat drive like a pleasant DD.
Im in.
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