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'95 "R" Fuel tank replacement

Discussion in 'Cobra R's' started by bret a ewing, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    We presume we are on borrowed time with our current fuel cell so................

    Mark Smith and myself are working with "Glenn's Performance" to produce an aluminum fuel tank that looks like the fuel cell it will replace. The goal we have for this project is to create a tank that is a direct strap-in-bolt-up unit. We want to utilize the existing attached items: fuel filler tube and flange, the entire fuel pickup/return/pump array with it's flange intact, and the level sensor again with it's flange.
    Best case, just gasket and bolt the items directly to the new tank.
    My car is going to be Mr Guiney Pig so I'm in the process of pulling the tank, preforming a bladderectomy, and sending the empty fuel cell shell to Glenn.
    Then it is up to the master.
    Glenn's web: 1979-1997 Ford Mustang Fuel Tanks - Glenn's Performance

    Will let you know how it progresses........................

    Regards, Bret.
     
  2. Robert M

    Robert M 800 HORSE FUN!! Established Member

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    ^^^^^^^I got beat-up over this suggestion on this forum when I mentioned it a few years ago............


    My thought for an option was to take the bladder rings (shown below), have them migging in the tank holes, mig closed the weep hole (bottom right front), pressure check the tank, and and then bolt the tank back in place for the perfect/original fit. All fittings would work (and look) exactly as they did before the tank was removed, except no leaking bladder issues. Heck, you could even install the anti-slosh foam sections through the top hole, just like original.



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    But...........if the car were to be used as intended (racing), the tank "appearing to be a Fuel Safe cell", but not really......that could be a deadly issue for a future buyer/owner.




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  3. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Robert,

    Great ideas, thanks. I am hoping not to get too much negative reaction from this project since a replacement tank that looks similar to the fuel cell is already available. The fuel cell tub is thin gauge aluminum and probably is not suitable for holding fuel without the bladder. The new tank will be a more substantial higher gauge unit.
    We are just trying to fine tune the fabrication to make it an easier installation utilizing the original parts.
    If you still have the rings and dont mind sending them to Glenn to be used as templates, it would be much appreciated.
    Best regards, Bret.
     
  4. specracer

    specracer SVTOA MCA Premium Member

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    I would like to be in the loop on this project, as long as the look is exact to the original, and costs dont get out of hand. I also have 2 friends w 95R's that would be interested as well, as we were just discussing this topic Monday. Are you exploring options for a '00 as well? I have no interest in replacing bladders on either car, as they will leak again some day...
     
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    wheelhopper Active Member Established Member

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    Sign me up as well.

    I ended up cleaning up and installing an entire stock 15 gallon fuel tank, and accessories, that I got for just over $100. I just could not see spending $1500 at the time. I saved every little piece of my fuel bladder and would love to have the near factory look/set up. As long as it financially makes sense.
     
  6. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Check back here or give Glenn a call for info. "The Look" is the intent.
    Our gang has 2 "00s, so that may be next.
    Agree, replacing bladders are not fun or cheap.
    Best, Bret.
     
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    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Yep.:)
     
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    brianz426 Member Established Member

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    Bret,
    Sorry, I'm a little late to this thread. If your car is not leaking and you haven't pulled the tank yet I have my original tub you could use. The previous owner of my car bought a brand new complete Fuel Safe cell when the original began to leak. Let me know if this would make things easier. I'm interested in this project also because I think my current tank already has about 4-5 years on it.
     
  9. specracer

    specracer SVTOA MCA Premium Member

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    I lurk here often, but post rarely. I will keep up with this thread, or feel free to PM, and I'll give you my e-mail. The other 2 guys, I dont think are in touch with this board, but I will relay info as needed.

    Hope the 00 gets tackled as well.

    Thanks!



     
  10. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Awesome Brian! Do you mind sending the tub to Glenn? I will pay for the round trip expense. So busy right now with work and home projects. Heck this may even get you to the top of Mark Smith's Honda MT 70 list!! He wants a tank also.

    Either way let me know, and nice to hear from you.

    Best, Bret.
     
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    brianz426 Member Established Member

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    PM sent
     
  12. TheWhistler

    TheWhistler 95 GTS + 2013 RR BOSS 302 Established Member

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    Here is my Glenn's Performance Fuel Cell in #17... Ive had this in for about 2 years now albeit, my R is Highly modified this thing is built like a brick... Glenn builds one heck of cell...

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    In action at Sebring...

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    n2fords2003 New Member Established Member

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    Yeap sign me up too. Im not playing the replace bladder game :nonono:
     
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    n2fords2003 New Member Established Member

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    I would be very interested to put in a few fake in panels to lower fuel capacity. I dont want a 20 gallon tank but I want it to be an exact looking replacement on the outside. Im never going to do an endurance race and I dont want the extra weight in fuel. Yea yea put less fuel in it.. but there is a higher risk of fuel slosh. I never stay out on the track with any of my car at less than 1/4 tank. Most track sessions are 20 to 30 mins and thats around 7 gallons.. my ideal placement tank would be 12 to 14 gallons but an exact looking from the outside.

    Just an idea of what I would want in my fuel cell replacement.
     
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    I would like to be included in this even thou I just replaced the cell [2800:cuss:] If cost is within reason and the look and fitment is the same.Stan
     
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    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Those are the pics that started this mission. Great quality unit. I believe that is the "Sleeper Tank" currently sold by Glenn.
    Thanks for the pics.
    Bret.
     
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    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Ruslow,
    You will certainly be included.:beer:

    As you have read, we are going to send Glenn an empty fuel cell tub to be used as a template. I have personally talked with Glenn, good guy, I believe we can work out a price comparable to his current tank line.

    Best, Bret.
     
  18. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    For those involved with this project or have questions for Glenn, here is "Glenn's Performance" contact and mailing information:
    2398 Omaha Drive
    Kingman AZ 86401
    Ph: 928.415.0651

    Best, Bret.
     
  19. CobraR77

    CobraR77 IMSA R Fanatic Established Member

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    Bret, I talked to Glenn and we sorted things out. Tonight I'm going to get everything together and boxed up for shipment. It should be on it's way sometime tomorrow.
     
  20. bret a ewing

    bret a ewing Member Established Member

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    Thanks Todd for all your help.

    Best, Bret.
     

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