Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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Then get a Demon. All other manufacturers are done with the one trick pony cars. I'm greedy and want it all in a car.
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They are too heavy. You can make a similar car without making it 4500lbs.
No, I'm pleased with what I've seen.
I owned an '09, an '11, a '13 and finally a '14 GT500. My favs were the '11 and the '14. Wish I'd never sold them. That said... My '15 5.0 GT out handled any of the GT500s and was more fun to drive. My '17 GT350 takes that to another level. The only way Ford is going to get me back into a GT500 is to offer at least GT350 level handling along with the HP grunt the GT350 lacks.
boduke0220 (up above) is right when he says that the new GT500 has to run with the Camaro ZL1, and that includes the track as well as the street or strip.
I owned an '09, an '11, a '13 and finally a '14 GT500. My favs were the '11 and the '14. Wish I'd never sold them. That said... My '15 5.0 GT out handled any of the GT500s and was more fun to drive. My '17 GT350 takes that to another level. The only way Ford is going to get me back into a GT500 is to offer at least GT350 level handling along with the HP grunt the GT350 lacks.
boduke0220 (up above) is right when he says that the new GT500 has to run with the Camaro ZL1, and that includes the track as well as the street or strip.
Yes, this year.
Let's just stick to monetary bets. Same day same driver, verifiable standardized conditions. It will be easy to make happen. Name whatever price you feel comfortable with. Track pack GT500 vs. current ZL1 1LE.
Who is arguing the 1LE will be faster?
Nonsense. The 500's DCT alone will close any gap on a road course and make manually shifted cars seem slow.
I honestly like what I see with the car; the aero, DCT, 2650 TVS, wider more competent wheels, Magnaride, etc. Looking forward to hearing actual numbers regarding weight, power, performance, and of course price points.
Not sure I care for the rotary dial for gear selection either, but would have to drive one. Probably a non-factor in the end and just something to get used to.
Not sure I care for the rotary dial for gear selection either, but would have to drive one. Probably a non-factor in the end and just something to get used to.
That seems a little advantageous, to say the least.... lol.
Okay, I’ll bite.
Here is my bet... TP 500 will not put up a time 0.5 faster than the 1LE at VIR, once car and driver gets a hold of it.
I’ll put $100 on it.
Car and Driver is not a good bet because they just do not employ any kind of decent methodology to their testing. They publish times from various times in the day when ambient and track temps can be very different. You can get one car tested at 8 AM when it's 65* and one at 2 PM when it's 85*. It's a rotating cast of drivers even on the same day. Some are faster, some are slower; all are way off of a pro and are way more affected by the type of car. Big power downforce cars require a level of talent that is getting harder and harder for a magazine to accurately represent. You have guys being asked to keep their foot to the floor at 170 mph in a bend in a car that isn't theirs, without a cage.
Even knowing that, I *think* C&D would still be likely put up more than 0.5 seconds between GT500 and 1LE because the DCT eliminates one of the most driver-dependent functions in the car, especially at such a high speed track.
Whats more, it will feel like a nice driving car on the street, not a rock hauler.
I understand that, but it is the best way I know off, that both cars will be getting tested in almost identical conditions, relatively soon, by an unbiased source.
Let me know if you would like to accept my terms and we can lock in that bet.
Only for average drivers, fast shifting doesnt amount to a lot on track. The 1LE is still set up like a race car, it wont be a murder show. I think C&D will destroy the 1Le with the 500 but the Randy P hot laps not so much. I'll guess >1sec @laguna
Here's a much better look, including the rotary knob
Thank you Knob Man.
After 3 years and hundreds of bunk insider leaks, you finally got one for us a couple of weeks before the debut. It's easily the most important part of this car and was definitely the information that we cared about.
That's as much a bet about C&D as it is about the cars though. I'll think about it.
I do not know anyone at FP or FMC that makes any consideration between the two. The entire expenditure of GT was related to getting on the podium for 2016, so outside of that, it is what it is.
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