Then get a Demon. All other manufacturers are done with the one trick pony cars. I'm greedy and want it all in a car.I wanted a demon type GT500. Street/strip. And not for $100k. A mclaren 720 will run 9's. But so with a turbo fox with the correct setup. See my point?
They are too heavy. You can make a similar car without making it 4500lbs.Then get a Demon. All other manufacturers are done with the one trick pony cars. I'm greedy and want it all in a car.
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Any time line for the Bronco reveal? This year by chance?
Any facts / data to back that up?
What were the times?
Let's just stick to monetary bets. Same day same driver, verifiable standardized conditions. It will be easy to make happen. Name whatever price you feel comfortable with. Track pack GT500 vs. current ZL1 1LE.
Yes, this year.
Let's just stick to monetary bets. Same day same driver, verifiable standardized conditions. It will be easy to make happen. Name whatever price you feel comfortable with. Track pack GT500 vs. current ZL1 1LE.
That seems a little advantageous, to say the least.... lol.
Okay, I’ll bite.
Here is my bet... TP 500 will not put up a time 0.5 faster than the 1LE at VIR, once car and driver gets a hold of it.
I’ll put $100 on it.
Car and Driver is not a good bet because they just do not employ any kind of decent methodology to their testing. They publish times from various times in the day when ambient and track temps can be very different. You can get one car tested at 8 AM when it's 65* and one at 2 PM when it's 85*. It's a rotating cast of drivers even on the same day. Some are faster, some are slower; all are way off of a pro and are way more affected by the type of car. Big power downforce cars require a level of talent that is getting harder and harder for a magazine to accurately represent. You have guys being asked to keep their foot to the floor at 170 mph in a bend in a car that isn't theirs, without a cage.
Even knowing that, I *think* C&D would still be likely put up more than 0.5 seconds between GT500 and 1LE because the DCT eliminates one of the most driver-dependent functions in the car.
Only for average drivers, fast shifting doesnt amount to a lot on track. The 1LE is still set up like a race car, it wont be a murder show. I think C&D will destroy the 1Le with the 500 but the Randy P hot laps not so much. I'll guess >1sec @lagunaWho is arguing the 1LE will be faster?
Nonsense. The 500's DCT alone will close any gap on a road course and make manually shifted cars seem slow.
Here's a much better look, including the rotary knob
Car and Driver is not a good bet because they just do not employ any kind of decent methodology to their testing. They publish times from various times in the day when ambient and track temps can be very different. You can get one car tested at 8 AM when it's 65* and one at 2 PM when it's 85*. It's a rotating cast of drivers even on the same day. Some are faster, some are slower; all are way off of a pro and are way more affected by the type of car. Big power downforce cars require a level of talent that is getting harder and harder for a magazine to accurately represent. You have guys being asked to keep their foot to the floor at 170 mph in a bend in a car that isn't theirs, without a cage.
Even knowing that, I *think* C&D would still be likely put up more than 0.5 seconds between GT500 and 1LE because the DCT eliminates one of the most driver-dependent functions in the car, especially at such a high speed track.
Zl1 being .5 behind not infront, size of gap is pretty important imo.Why the .5 second being given to the ZL1? Why not a win is a win?
I understand that, but it is the best way I know off, that both cars will be getting tested in almost identical conditions, relatively soon, by an unbiased source.
Let me know if you would like to accept my terms and we can lock in that bet.
Are you at liberty to say how close in performance Ford let this car get to the GT?
That's as much a bet about C&D as it is about the cars though. I'll think about it.
I do not know anyone at FP or FMC that makes any consideration between the two. The entire expenditure of GT was related to getting on the podium for 2016, so outside of that, it is what it is.