I hear those 2.7's are love bug magnets though.That was the older versions. We have a few older 2.7’s with over 70k that aren’t maintained well that are just fine. Mines a 2.7 and does not use a touch of oil and zero noise at 8500.
I hear those 2.7's are love bug magnets though.That was the older versions. We have a few older 2.7’s with over 70k that aren’t maintained well that are just fine. Mines a 2.7 and does not use a touch of oil and zero noise at 8500.
Never had a phaser issue on my 5.4 with 135k, but I changed the oil every 5 with good oil.Hell one on F150 forums has over 200k Miles a 2.7. You can’t buy into all the horror stories I realize the 2.7 had a bad batch, 3.5 with cam phasers so did the 5.4L 3V. Now the 18 coyotes not all are bad. You have a warranty for a reason and they’re making it right.
Am I right @13COBRA
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True story today Todd.I hear those 2.7's are love bug magnets though.
Plus the F150 is one of the most selling vehicles in the USA. A completed truck rolls off the line every minute. You read about people having issues on forums but what is the percentage vs total units sold? I bet it's very low.Hell one on F150 forums has over 200k Miles a 2.7. You can’t buy into all the horror stories I realize the 2.7 had a bad batch, 3.5 with cam phasers so did the 5.4L 3V. Now the 18 coyotes not all are bad. You have a warranty for a reason and they’re making it right.
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Same. Had a 5.4 3v to just over 100k miles. Never had an issue.Never had a phaser issue on my 5.4 with 135k, but I changed the oil every 5 with good oil.
As do the 2 valves......the 9psi didn't hurt...lol Thank God for Time Serts!You rarely hear the good about an engine like you do the bad. I mean, the 4.6 4 valve blows spark plugs out of the heads and cooks the number 7 and 8 valve guides. I still bought one.
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Don't know but I'll continue to mod and race mine if it blows up oh well ill just throw a built short block in it.I think you may be right. Nissan has been using Ford's spray in liner tech on the GTR since it came out in 2008. First thing they do off the production line is run it through a gauntlet coarse and run it's balls off. They haven't had this issue.
Or maybe Ford hasn't figured out the correct ring gap to use with these liners. I would think the spray in bore heats up and expands at a different rate than a steel liner and that would have to be accounted for. Dunno. Just a WAG.
@IronSnake if you end up getting it bought back, let me know and I will do whatever I can to give you an excellent deal on a new Ford to get the bad taste out of your mouth.
So what do you have to do after 28 days pass and you hit the buyback tier? And how long will all that take? Do you need an attorney for that? Are the laws state specific? Interested to see how this pans out, as I have never known anyone who went thru the LL stuff.
Good luck!
It's a pain.
We just helped a customer do it on a 2014 Focus. They ended up paying off her loan, and giving her $1,000 (which was more than fair). However, upon the RAV inspection of the vehicle, she had some body damage, the tires were bald, and she was missing one of the keys. It ended up costing her $1,588 to get it all fixed, so they would take it back. So she was -$588 after it was all said and done.
Plus the F150 is one of the most selling vehicles in the USA. A completed truck rolls off the line every minute. You read about people having issues on forums but what is the percentage vs total units sold? I bet it's very low.
Same. Had a 5.4 3v to just over 100k miles. Never had an issue.
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The wife and I visited our dealer and spoke to a few folks we know in Sales. As is, we'd roll negative equity. If we want to just get out of the truck, it's a chunk of change to do so.
Sleeping on it and just talking to the wife helped. I/we decided it's getting a motor. But as of right now, based on SC lemon law, I only have 28 days before the truck hits the buy back tier. And with a 25 day back order on the motors, they're going to have to put it in fast. The minute it hit's 30 days I'm out and Ford can take it back.
I'm cautiously optimistic like I was about the TSB procedure. The truck was bone dry on the dipstick when we started it at 4500mi, and I was hoping it would seat/stop using oil. 2k miles later, no bueno. Talking to folks that have had the truck yote's has not helped my opinion either. I've yet to find one good success story. New motor eats oil/makes noise. Clearly somethings wrong with the manufacturing process I guess.
Anyway, yes, I was upset/emotional about it. But cooler heads are persevering. Especially when faced with the expense of thousands to avoid this issue entirely. Wife and I decided to use a portion of that money to buy a third car instead. In the event the truck situation continues to tank, it'll help having an extra pair of wheels to ride around in. I will update as things move along.
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The wife and I visited our dealer and spoke to a few folks we know in Sales. As is, we'd roll negative equity. If we want to just get out of the truck, it's a chunk of change to do so.
Sleeping on it and just talking to the wife helped. I/we decided it's getting a motor. But as of right now, based on SC lemon law, I only have 28 days before the truck hits the buy back tier. And with a 25 day back order on the motors, they're going to have to put it in fast. The minute it hit's 30 days I'm out and Ford can take it back.
I'm cautiously optimistic like I was about the TSB procedure. The truck was bone dry on the dipstick when we started it at 4500mi, and I was hoping it would seat/stop using oil. 2k miles later, no bueno. Talking to folks that have had the truck yote's has not helped my opinion either. I've yet to find one good success story. New motor eats oil/makes noise. Clearly somethings wrong with the manufacturing process I guess.
Anyway, yes, I was upset/emotional about it. But cooler heads are persevering. Especially when faced with the expense of thousands to avoid this issue entirely. Wife and I decided to use a portion of that money to buy a third car instead. In the event the truck situation continues to tank, it'll help having an extra pair of wheels to ride around in. I will update as things move along.
You rarely hear the good about an engine like you do the bad. I mean, the 4.6 4 valve blows spark plugs out of the heads and cooks the number 7 and 8 valve guides. I still bought one.
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Grain of salt, man.And my dad just bought a ‘19 5.0 truck
Awesome