Ford GT Nurburgring time?

[Formula51]

What did the GT run at the ring? And any other major tracks for that matter. Please post links if you have them.

Thanks,
Eddie

 

[FordGTGuy]

What did the GT run at the ring? And any other major tracks for that matter. Please post links if you have them.

Thanks,
Eddie

i don't even know if the Ford GT ran the Ring yet, It has run LeMans I think.

 

[fordification]

I'm not exactly sure why they haven't tested yet, but the new Z06 numbers are in.

7:01 --- 176.152 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 race car, 493 hp (2004), >>> http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsh...spdf.asp?id=217
7:10 --- 173.100 km/h -- BMW M3 GTR, 450 PS/1350 kg, Jörg Müller (practice 24hrs race 2003)
7:12 --- 173.600 km/h – Radical SR3 Turbo race car, 320 PS/500 kgs (test drive 07/2003)
7:12.25 173.500 km/h – Schnitzer BMW M3 GTR, Dirk Müller, 24 hrs practice 2002
7:18.01 169.311 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, M. Düchting, sport auto 12/2004, http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...2&tID=13957
7:19 --- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), >>> http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/ne...liefe/index.php

7:20* -- 168.545 km/h -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, 500hp, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:21 --- 168.163 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
7:25 --- 168.651 km/h -- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl,(Autobild July 2004)

7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time Horst Von Saurma (sport auto 01/2004)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 2001) >>> http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h – Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, >>> http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/arti...=&type=news

7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Corvette Z06, 505 PS/ 1419.7 kg (estimated), Jan Magnusen (AutoBild 7/2005) (*mfr.), >>> http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...0&tID=44953
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h – Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/2004) >>> http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsh...spdf.asp?id=217
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, 2004 (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (2002)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/2002)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Röhrl (MOTOR Magazine)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 2002)
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 07/2002)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (2000)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at >>> www.pistonheads.tv
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2001)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/200), >>> http://www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 1999)
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/2004)
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004) http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testb...artikel_seite=4
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/1999)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne 1993 (moto bike)

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/2003)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schürg (1997)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h – Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine, >>> http://nurburgring.free.fr/Vids/Bre...vx504_1_350.avi
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h – BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg, >>> http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/de...topic_id=731907
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 1995)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h – Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005), >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...2&tID=27415
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/2003)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (company test driver Dave Hill)
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/1998)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 1997)

 

[Starfox07]

WOW, the zo6 beat both mclarens, the lambo murcie, the CGT, and the zonda S, that thing FLIES!!

 

[GTSpartan]

Most of those cars that have faster times are race cars. The mighty CCR with 800hp only beat it by 1 sec and ~.5km/h. Just goes to show you that hp isn't everything.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Most of those cars that have faster times are race cars. The mighty CCR with 800hp only beat it by 1 sec and ~.5km/h. Just goes to show you that hp isn't everything.

well anyone could have told you that man, for instance in Forza I have a 1000+ hp Enzo will it beat a P1 around track hell no.

 

[mingrey02gt]

I'm not exactly sure why they haven't tested yet, but the new Z06 numbers are in.

According to this website, the 7:40 was ran by the prototype Blue Devil Corvette(Supercharged LS7), which may or may not be anything like the car they might come out with in production.

 

[Formula51]

Do some poking around as it is unlikely that was a Blue Devils time. Nothing has been fully substantiated yet, but think of it this way: You are GM, getting ready to promote your new Z06 Supercar Stomper. Do you release track times for a car (Blue Devil) which you dont even acknowledge exists yet that will take away from the mystique of your already announced Z06 and it's potential buyers? Uhuh, no way, that has to be Z06 times. We will know for certain in a few short weeks probably. I wonder if those times are limited by the tires. Lots of the Porsches and other faster cars come from the factory with a DOT tire.

I didn't see the ring times for the Ford GT in the list posted. Did I miss it? Someone has got to have ring times for that car, its THE BENCHMARK for supercars.

 

[satx]

WOW, the zo6 beat both mclarens, the lambo murcie, the CGT, and the zonda S, that thing FLIES!!

re-check the CGT times in the DRY, 7:28. New Z06 will be a performer no doubt just not a CGT beater.

 

[Jman20427]

The Ford GT hasnt been to Nurenburg yet for a real showing.

 

[Formula51]

How the heck has the car not been yet! That is just piss poor on Fords part. If you want to show what your car is capable of compared to the cars of the rest of the world, you need to run the ring. People all over the world compare supercars with these times, not everyone reads Car and Driver if ya know what I mean.

The GT has been out for over a year? Man, just piss poor. What is the reason they didn't run it there, any idea?

 

[Vic]

[satire]The North Loop is a good approximation of bumpy roads of Europe. It shows how cars can absorb bumps and still stick in turns, but thats only a criteria for the locals. Here in Wyoming, we've got a lot of farm land, and there are more dirt roads than paved. So the winner of the "Wyoming Loop" is a John Deere tractor, because its got good high ground clearance for the ruts, and lots of traction in the mud.[/satire]

 

[Formula51]

The ring is the best track to showcase a cars all-around speed and handling. Thus, it is the benchmark for ALL road racing cars.

 

[FordGTGuy]

The ring is the best track to showcase a cars all-around speed and handling. Thus, it is the benchmark for ALL road racing cars.

no love for Le Mans?

 

[Formula51]

Lots of love for Le Mans!!! I am a Corvette fan, how could I not love it! But, the ring is the benchmark. Do you know what the GT ran at Le Mans and was it stock, including tires?

Side note: There should be confirmation tomorrow on whether the 7.40 Corvette time was the Z06 or Blue Devil and if it was on stock wheels and rubber. It is looking more and more like the Z will surpass the GT. Looks like the GT's only advantage will be in straight line speed. Any chance we will see any kinds of changes to the GT in its final year? Kind of like a last hoorah!

 

[pan7eraboyca]

What about "The Stig" benchmark? I believe that is the true test of ANY car!!! LOL

 

[FordGTGuy]

going to be strange comparing the two Ford GT is mid-engined with more wieght while the corvette is lighter FE. I would give it to the Ford GT the torque will bring it around those corners and both the cars have the same brakes it looks like.

 

[GTSpartan]

I have a gut felling the new Z will be faster around the ring than the GT. Lighter weight and better brakes make a really big differenece. That car I believe is the pinnacle of balance right now. It's no joke how much GM tested and developed the new Z on the track and used real race technology.

 

[Jman20427]

Lots of love for Le Mans!!! I am a Corvette fan, how could I not love it! But, the ring is the benchmark. Do you know what the GT ran at Le Mans and was it stock, including tires?

Side note: There should be confirmation tomorrow on whether the 7.40 Corvette time was the Z06 or Blue Devil and if it was on stock wheels and rubber. It is looking more and more like the Z will surpass the GT. Looks like the GT's only advantage will be in straight line speed. Any chance we will see any kinds of changes to the GT in its final year? Kind of like a last hoorah!

Couple of people are now saying its 7:43. I dont know who to believe.

 

[Formula51]

Well over at digitalcorvettes.com there has been some information confirming it is a stock Z06 from a guy from Pratt and Miller. I didn't see any mention of a 7:43 though. This car was supposedly stock down to the tires and while driven by a great driver, Jan Magnussen, it is potentially faster in the hands of a ring regular.

To quote the guy from Pratt and Miller, "I just thought I'd let you guys know. Apparently Jan scared himself silly a couple times at the Nurburgring, and if that car is fast enough to scare Jan as crazy as he is, we got a rocket ship on our hands."

Here is the thread over at digitalcorvettes.com if anyone cares.
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39466&perpage=15&pagenumber=6


FordGTguy: I dont see anything strange about the comparison. Fords Supercar vs. Chevys Supercar. You can talk about differences of engine placement, weight, forced inductionc vs. NA, but thats just the way each prospective company decided to build their supercar. Hey, you can talk about price too, but thats no fun!

The C5 Z06 stopped from 60mph in 103ft. The Viper in 97ft. The GT is higher than both. The C6 Z06 will best the Viper in all categories (GM's goal), which means it would severly outbrake the GT. Contrary to popular opinion, getting into the corner (brakes) is more important than getting off (torque/power). The majority of passes are "made" entering the corner and "held" coming off.