forged internals and tolerating 1000 hp to the crank stock?

[Ry_Trapp0]

i think part of the problem lies with how ford advertised the Boss 302, the sinter-forged rods became a household phrase practically and those who didn't know any better(the vast majority of people) assumed that they were the same as quality drop forged rods because they had "forged" in the name, when they're actually sinter forged powdered metal rods. having said that, i don't think i've heard of any boss rod failures(although, people haven't really pushed them north of 4 figures yet).

 

[Dizzyscure1]

i think part of the problem lies with how ford advertised the Boss 302, the sinter-forged rods became a household phrase practically and those who didn't know any better(the vast majority of people) assumed that they were the same as quality drop forged rods because they had "forged" in the name, when they're actually sinter forged powdered metal rods. having said that, i don't think i've heard of any boss rod failures(although, people haven't really pushed them north of 4 figures yet).

They have, they just don't post much if at all. But yes the Boss Rods are pretty dang nice especially from the factory on a $7xxx engine LOL!

 

[ripcord]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-ford-mustang-50l-v8-could-feature-1000hp-potential Says a thousand here, possible ?

 

[BurnTire]

Still waiting to see pics of the block with the heads off. Hoping there is more beef around the cylinders.

 

[ripcord]

They have just started with this block we will see.

 

[SID297]

I thought we found the rods where a different forging process than the boss? Maybe I'm cornfused.

All the same powdered metal process.

 

[SteveG@Lethal]

Boss rods, hyper pistons, better heads flow and larger intake valves with different cams.

Making power is the easy part as we have seen since 2011. Just everything else will take a play in it. If it was me, a 600hp level is max on a daily driver.

 

[denali33]

600hp crank max or whp?

 

[SteveG@Lethal]

rwhp. We do not do crank

 

[SID297]

Do we every really talk crank power any more?

 

[AustinSN]

Do we every really talk crank power any more?

Only car manufactures anymore.

 

[whiplash920]

huh, seems the engine is tolerating almost 1000 with a twin turbo set-up. the article from ripcord would suggest that i got my info from a decent source.

 

[SID297]

huh, seems the engine is tolerating almost 1000 with a twin turbo set-up. the article from ripcord would suggest that i got my info from a decent source.

Don't expect the engine to live long at 1,000HP. A glory run is one thing, repeating it reliably is another. Also, don't forget about the bad forging info.

 

[Screamin363]

My worthless opinion is. 700rwhp all day.

More and I believe you like holes in your block.

 

[Deranged2013]

Don't expect the engine to live long at 1,000HP. A glory run is one thing, repeating it reliably is another. Also, don't forget about the bad forging info.

What bad forging info?

 

[Carbon Driven]

What about Hellion's TT 949 hp setup? I think this is what Im going with

[video=youtube;pku3dLg-zZ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pku3dLg-zZ4[/video]

http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-hellions-949-rwhp-2015-is-the-worlds-most-powerful-s550/

 

[SID297]

What bad forging info?

Look the title. It mentions forged internals. The crank is the only forged component (PMRs don't count).

 

[FreddyG]

heard this about the new 2015 mustang...true?

Hellion did it!

 

[slagburn]

What about Hellion's TT 949 hp setup? I think this is what Im going with

[video=youtube;pku3dLg-zZ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pku3dLg-zZ4[/video]

http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-hellions-949-rwhp-2015-is-the-worlds-most-powerful-s550/

Ask Hellion about where the test was performed, the correction factor used. I'm at altitude as well and our inflated numbers are fun, but not realistic to the rest of the country. I don't agree with them marketing this inflated number as fact and think it may even be a bit irresponsible..

 

[SlowSVT]

i think part of the problem lies with how ford advertised the Boss 302, the sinter-forged rods became a household phrase practically and those who didn't know any better(the vast majority of people) assumed that they were the same as quality drop forged rods because they had "forged" in the name, when they're actually sinter forged powdered metal rods. having said that, i don't think i've heard of any boss rod failures(although, people haven't really pushed them north of 4 figures yet).

The old GT500 rods were nothing to write home about but they seemed to have held-up pretty good. Not sure how sintered forged rods (I wonder if they mean: "pressed") compare but I think a solid billet forged rods are still a better choice.

The problem with our cars has always been the pistons :nonono: