I'll have to give it a try. I do drop sets and they seem to work well for me.
Jack3d, Good Or Bad? What's Your Experience?
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I'll have to give it a try. I do drop sets and they seem to work well for me.
Used to use jack3d but I switched back to Superpump when they came out with Superpump Max. I would recommend this if you're looking for a good pre-workout that doesn't make you feel like Michael J. Fox. Blue Raspberry tastes great and I only need 1-1 1/2 scoops to get the job done. Definitely an improvement performance wise over lifting without supplements. I picture it as cranking up the boost on my internal supercharger
Yeah, but I'm not a body builder, I'm an athlete. 23 hours of exercise doesn't mean 23 hours of weight lifting. Weights for an hour, run for an hour, fight for 2-2.5 hours. Different type of stresses on my body. But yes, 23 is still too much, just not 'stupid way too much'
Jack3d gave me erectile disfunction. It has the best taste and I liked the way it worked.
Hemo rage hardcore is pretty intense. 1MR is okay. I had good experiences with code 3 and also insane from nutri shop
Hemo rage hardcore is pretty intense. 1MR is okay. I had good experiences with code 3 and also insane from nutri shop
QFT!
1,3D or Geranamine or DMAA Is the ingredient in Jack3d that is causing the issues people complain about. It is also the active ingredient in USP Labs Oxy Elite Pro (A popular fat burner or Thermogenic) another popular product by USP Labs. 1,3D HAS been proven to cause false positive drug tests in the military for amphetamines. Just recently OEP was pulled from the shelves from all military exchanges and base stores. Jack3d However is still available and can still be used by military personal as long as they disclose their usage prior to taking a whiz quizz.
The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) yanked the FDA's authority to regulate supplements so do your homework and learn to read labels. Supplement companies are very very smart and usually change the ingredient profile of a supplement sometimes twice a year! they re label it "new improved" or "version 2.0" or something like that, what they really did is change an ingredient that was about to be recalled or potentially banned or due to their own research found out an ingredient in the old version was or could be potentially harmful. This isn't always the case but just remember they're in the business of making money not adding 20lbs to your bench.
You will get the argument all the time that "it's a natural ingredient source" and it's "organic" or "non synthetic". In the case of Geranium oil, it is "natural" but it is NOT a essential element so be careful with what you put in your body. Too much 1,3D will cause Kidney issues if not renal failure!
With that being said, I AM an advocate for certain supplements so believe me I'm not one of those "Our body is our temple" folks. I just suggest we all do our due diligence and learn about what we are consuming before we line the pockets of a company that is more concerned with their bottom line instead of our best interest.
In my opinion that's the difference between the big market supplement companies (Muscletech,USP,BSN) and the little guys (Controlled Labs, PES, ASN, APNUT etc). When you can, buy from the little guys providing they have a good reputation and a product you require.
In ending, my opinion is JACK3D = Rubbish
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Yep coffee to start then when it's over nesquik
Coffee is my choice as well. I take Scivation Xtend with me to the gym and add in creatine and that's it.
I've tried tons of from 1MR, Jack3d, C4, Assault, NO-Xplod, etc...All bs imo.
Remember people that supplements don't have to have FDA approval and they don't legally have to tell you exactly what's in them.
DO YOUR RESEARCH.
Double shot of espresso for me and lots of water
The ingredients in it are being considered from banned for use by DoD personnel right now. No decision yet. A few folks have died after taking it but, each one did not follow the guidelines that are clearly outlined on the label. You don't take 'several' scoops of it, drink 4 ounces of water, be VERY out of shape and then try to run 5 miles in the heat. Not going to work out very well.
That said, because of the deaths and a few other problems, I'm willing to bet it gets banned outright for DoD folks very shortly. Similar to what happened to ephedra.
Thats the strange thing about DMAA. I watched someone take 2 scoops and then hit the gym. 3 hours after, they provided a sample for a drug screen and it came back negative for methamphetamine.
Personally, I do not take any type of product containing creatine. After two fasciotomies, I'll avoid it like the plague.
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I disagree, I workout regular and I have tried NOxplode and its nothing but fillers. In a majority of people they add fat weight to the mid section. Thats the good thing about Jack3d or neurocore, they are only the ingrediants u need. And if u guys ever stop feeling the buzz from them, just take some benadryl and it will clear out your receptors! Stack it with Yok3d and u will have hulk-like effect going on, LOVE IT!
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Doubt it man, Army here and I have had two piss tests while taking it daily and never had a problem? But everyone is different I guess. I was more worried about the creatine falsifying a wiz quiz so i talked to my commander and he said not to worry because the lab can tell what it what.
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