I'm leaning toward the adj BMR's ,upper and lowers and adj panhard bar. Like I said I just don't want to buy things twice (learned that the hard way) lol. Were getting M&H 325/40/18's on stock widened wheels. I hope that it will somewhat hook up on the street.
Lower control arms ?
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I use Bob's arms on my 2009 GT500, and it's right at 700 rwhp. I've never received more compliments on a lower control arm in my life.
previous UMI non-adj. (top) Bob's arms (bottom)
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My dad runs the steeda lowers on his 07 shelby and loves them. They seem to be very similar to the metco.
Off topic but could you run a 345 tire with the lowers with out any rubbing or other problems??
Off topic but could you run a 345 tire with the lowers with out any rubbing or other problems??
For the Bob's, they look cool, but I was curious if they maintain the factory geometry...what the BMRs state on they billet LCAs.
Also, what is the big deal on this that BMR makes a big point about pointing this out?
Getting ready to order from Van and just asking...(Van, still out of town...)
Also, what is the big deal on this that BMR makes a big point about pointing this out?
Getting ready to order from Van and just asking...(Van, still out of town...)
BMR Billet...solid strong & no holes
are you referring to this comment from BMR?
I assure you, Bob's "Steve's" LCAs work as intended.
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The Bob's LCAs like the BMR will retain the factory geometry. Further, Bob's bushings are slightly longer than the metal sleeves. This allows the bushings to compress and stay tight against the LCA. The BMR units, while a great unit, do not do this crucial function, and the sleeves extend past the bushings. This allows the LCA to move laterally when bolted into the car.
Also I just weighed some other LCAs I have in my shop.
Bob's are 3.45 each
UPR are 3.55 each
BMR are 4.65 each
Also I just weighed some other LCAs I have in my shop.
Bob's are 3.45 each
UPR are 3.55 each
BMR are 4.65 each
Compressing a bushing to the threshold of the sleeve, inside a mounting point is not crucial one bit. This will cause a noisy bushing over time, as well as a bushing that is bound up without even being forced to do so. Lateral movement of the arm (to a small degree) is better on a pan-hard bar suspension than a bushing that is compressed at a steady state.
It is not a coincidence that BMR is the market leader in the GM and Ford pan-hard bar platforms.
It is not a coincidence that BMR is the market leader in the GM and Ford pan-hard bar platforms.
^^I've put thousands of miles on my bushings and no noise at all, nor have I regreased since installation. I worked with Prothane a really well respected polyurethane bushing manufacturer and they were the ones who really convinced me on that point. :shrug:
Who is giving you your info on that? I would love to read a link on that, I can change mine easy enough if that were true.
EDIT : Btw, I had a set of BMR in my car, before I even started making car parts, I could feel it slide around and it was a noisy bushing. Then I ordered a set of UPR, and when I got them I didn't like the look of the bushings (particularly the 3 large washers, and the thin metal outer edge). That is what made me make my own LCAs. After I posted pics here and got so many people complementing them I went into production. So I know BMR is not the "end all" market leader. One of my insurance agents quoted them and told me they don't even own their own CNC mills. I have rows of them in my shop.
Who is giving you your info on that? I would love to read a link on that, I can change mine easy enough if that were true.
EDIT : Btw, I had a set of BMR in my car, before I even started making car parts, I could feel it slide around and it was a noisy bushing. Then I ordered a set of UPR, and when I got them I didn't like the look of the bushings (particularly the 3 large washers, and the thin metal outer edge). That is what made me make my own LCAs. After I posted pics here and got so many people complementing them I went into production. So I know BMR is not the "end all" market leader. One of my insurance agents quoted them and told me they don't even own their own CNC mills. I have rows of them in my shop.
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I have UPR upper and lowers with relocation brackets and adj pan hard bar. Could not be happier. Absolutely no wheel hop and the ride is smooth as hell depending on road conditions. JMO
You have a few thousand miles on your new product, while BMR has millions of miles, thousands of customers, and 10+ years on theirs. :beer:
I could see your thinking, but I assure you...compressing the bushing to the sleeve is not as crucial as you make it to be. The only true way to know, will be ten years from now when you are still providing them to the market. Every manufacturer will tell you that the first design is rarely the best, and surely is not "end all".
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To the OP,
Here's a link to all of our LCA's that we offer. We have personally used BMR with our 9 second 2010 GT500 and we've been more than satisfied with the quality of their parts supporting over 1000hp.
BMR Fabrication : Lethal Performance, Performance parts for Ford Mustangs
Feel free to give us a call if you're looking to pull the trigger on any of them. We'll definitely get you set up with your member discount as well. We have plenty of BMR including the brackets in stock we can ship out same day.
Thanks
John
Here's a link to all of our LCA's that we offer. We have personally used BMR with our 9 second 2010 GT500 and we've been more than satisfied with the quality of their parts supporting over 1000hp.
BMR Fabrication : Lethal Performance, Performance parts for Ford Mustangs
Feel free to give us a call if you're looking to pull the trigger on any of them. We'll definitely get you set up with your member discount as well. We have plenty of BMR including the brackets in stock we can ship out same day.
Thanks
John
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Not sure how much this plays into things...How strong are yours versus the others, or the stocker? I know beast said he is pulling 700hp, but any idea?
Just as strong as BMR, and stronger than other aftermarket brands. All aftermarket are better than stockers! I will post some pics tomorrow when I am back in the office with the other units I have.
If anyone with 800+ whp wants to test a set and report back PM me, and I can work out a deal.:beer:
Bobs auto sport has done nothing but produce great products and has started to acquire a nice collection of products to provide to the mustang world. Just because he doesn't have millions of miles on them and thousands of customers doesn't mean he doesn't make a great product. Everyone has to start somewhere, and I think he has started at a very high quality and will continue to improve and hold his company to a higher standard
+1..... I dont have any of Bobs parts but would not hesitate to use them in the future.
Don't forget all of the issues with failed poly [over time] under high rwtq applications. For those applications, look at Maximum Motorsports Extreme (rod ends) or Griggs. I won't run poly...but I'm slightly modified and will be going TVS at some point. Maximum Motorsports even tells you the specific torque rating for each product which others don't appear to do. That doesn't mean poly units aren't well made it just means there comes a point when you need a different material to handle the power. If you've seen the damage from a failed rear lower control or what happens to the car when it fails while driving, you'll see you really need to pick the right material for your intended purposes. Buy what you need for your specific goals but make sure it is an informed decision based on research. Just something to take into consideration.
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Wait till the wife starts whining.....
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