I've made a lot of observations regarding the cooling system in our engine and thought it would be interesting to start a "top down" comprehensive cooling system thread where we can outline aspects of our engine that could see improvement ridding the engine of excess heat. More times than not heat plays a role in engine failures but is not always identified as one of the culprits which is usually blamed on something else. Whenever I build a performance engine minimizing heat absorbsion and transfer are high on the list for consideration. This will end up being a rather long thread so I'm going to submit installments on specific areas of interest to keep the topic focused. My pictures are from both the Romeo and a Boss 5.0 block but this pretty much applies to all mod motors. Keep in mind these are my observations and I may have overlooked something so feel free to comment.
I'll start with the block. With respect to cooling the one glaring choice we have is block material iron and aluminum which have vastly different thermal characteristics. Iron does not readily accept nor transfer heat where aluminum does just the opposite. In this respect iron has a clear advantage but certain aspects make aluminum a better choice mainly it's lightness, reparability and it's tolerance to flexing under high loading where thermal considerations are somewhat lower in the priority list. Iron blocks has advantages of being stiffer, less prone to warping and dimensionally stable which is a better choice for long term durability. Pick your poison!
Here's the water inlet for the 4.6 Romeo block
Boss inlet
(will get photo)
Hard to see in the photos but the Boss inlet is a little larger with somewhat fewer obstructions. What you want to achieve throughout the cooling circuit is the widest path with the fewest obstructions to slow the velocity of the coolant which reduces turbulence and resistance to flow. This is a good place to start!
The port match on the FRPP inlet overlapped quite a bit
After port matching
Cast surface smoothed. I managed to get inside fairly deep with a grinder on a flexible shaft and cleaned-up the port pretty well. Keep in mind water is very heavy and doesn't like to change direction or get scraped along rough surfaces it's called "drag"
Plugging the heatercore return port is something I recommend. It is here mainly to speed heat to the cabin at the expense of engine warming but what it also does is recirculated uncooled coolant the engine if the heater is not turned on. I'm not into that
On the flip side the water pump plenum has the boss to the recirc fitting that projected into the chamber. The coolant enters from the side and bumps into this obstruction
Off with it's head! It would be hard to find a mill with enough quill depth to handle this so I turned the block on it's end under a drill press with a 1/4" end mill and brushed the boss aside (there will be a bit of "movement" between the cutter and the block best to take small bites to minimize chatter)
Finished results
One thing I noted between the Romeo and Boss block was the 5.0 had a deeper plenum in front of the water pump. The more volume in the system the better.
I like the integral water pump design as opposed to an external pump as it takes-up a lot less space in front of the engine and minimizes the coolant path to the engine. The path leading up to it, not so much.
Here is the Cobra water pump with the cavitation ring and a discontinued Evans water pump
If I recall correctly the OEM pump moves about 35 GPM (with no restrictions) and the Evens pump moves 55 (ditto). The extra volume is nice but the restrictions imposed by the thermostat (about 2 1/4 sq in) will pretty much determine how much volume the pump can move so I'm not sure how much the system can take advantage of the extra volume of the Evens pump, my guess is "not by much".
What I do like about the Evens pump is the parabolic impeller vanes which will "displace" the water to the outside of the scroll where the sheet metal OEM pump acts more as a paddle wheel and more or less "flings" it there. Not the best arraignment to minimize cavitation. To reduce drag and cavitation even more I polished the cast surface of the pump and turned down the hub.
before
after
It's too bad Evens no longer makes this pump. With what's available I think I would be leaning toward the OE Cobra pump posted above. The Stewart 4.6 pump looks like a good choice as well
This one looks to be at the bottom of the mod motor heap
I'm not a huge fan of electric water pumps. They do have some advantages mainly in a dedicated drag racer. In a streetcar it adds a whole new set of things that can go wrong. Adding a controller will extend it's capability by regulating it's flow but now adds electronics to the mix now your depending on something as small as a diode. On a mechanical driven water pump I'm pretty much assured as long as that belt is spinning that pulley the pump will push water and is regulated by engine speed.
The next place the coolant goes exiting the water pump are the ports to both banks of cylinders on either side of the scroll. You can see them in the picture above showing the recirc plug. They are a bit larger in the Boss block than the Romeo. Not much improvement to be found here other then snoothing some of the casting flash and surface finish.
Once the coolant enters the cylinder water jacket it just empties into a large cavity. Cylinders don't get as hot as the heads so they don't pay as much attention to the distribution of coolant in the block (passing it on thru the heads is a different story). What I can say is the iron 4.6 and the 5.4 blocks uses full 360 degree cooling around the cylinders which is optimal for maintain cylinder roundness. The Boss and aluminum blocks all have "siamesed" cylinders which is both good and bad depending on the config. Having the bore with a web connecting the cylinders has the benefit of stiffening the block but it can also distort the cylinders as it heats up and flexed during periods of high loading. As you thin the space between the cylinders it gets worse. The 5.8 block with sleeves comes to mind. I think it leaves about .040" of aluminum between the bores at it thinnest point which to me is horrifying! I can only imagine how the continuity of stresses imposed on those cylinders are distributed in a very uneven way which is something that you don't want.
One of the aspects of this hobby that makes it so fun is the level of technical involvement with what your doing can go as deep as you want to take it. I would say the more you plan on pushing your engine these little details start to take on more meaning. I'll move-on to the coolant transition to the heads and the heads themselves next.
:beer:
I'll start with the block. With respect to cooling the one glaring choice we have is block material iron and aluminum which have vastly different thermal characteristics. Iron does not readily accept nor transfer heat where aluminum does just the opposite. In this respect iron has a clear advantage but certain aspects make aluminum a better choice mainly it's lightness, reparability and it's tolerance to flexing under high loading where thermal considerations are somewhat lower in the priority list. Iron blocks has advantages of being stiffer, less prone to warping and dimensionally stable which is a better choice for long term durability. Pick your poison!
Here's the water inlet for the 4.6 Romeo block
Boss inlet
(will get photo)
Hard to see in the photos but the Boss inlet is a little larger with somewhat fewer obstructions. What you want to achieve throughout the cooling circuit is the widest path with the fewest obstructions to slow the velocity of the coolant which reduces turbulence and resistance to flow. This is a good place to start!
The port match on the FRPP inlet overlapped quite a bit
After port matching
Cast surface smoothed. I managed to get inside fairly deep with a grinder on a flexible shaft and cleaned-up the port pretty well. Keep in mind water is very heavy and doesn't like to change direction or get scraped along rough surfaces it's called "drag"
Plugging the heatercore return port is something I recommend. It is here mainly to speed heat to the cabin at the expense of engine warming but what it also does is recirculated uncooled coolant the engine if the heater is not turned on. I'm not into that
On the flip side the water pump plenum has the boss to the recirc fitting that projected into the chamber. The coolant enters from the side and bumps into this obstruction
Off with it's head! It would be hard to find a mill with enough quill depth to handle this so I turned the block on it's end under a drill press with a 1/4" end mill and brushed the boss aside (there will be a bit of "movement" between the cutter and the block best to take small bites to minimize chatter)
Finished results
One thing I noted between the Romeo and Boss block was the 5.0 had a deeper plenum in front of the water pump. The more volume in the system the better.
I like the integral water pump design as opposed to an external pump as it takes-up a lot less space in front of the engine and minimizes the coolant path to the engine. The path leading up to it, not so much.
Here is the Cobra water pump with the cavitation ring and a discontinued Evans water pump
If I recall correctly the OEM pump moves about 35 GPM (with no restrictions) and the Evens pump moves 55 (ditto). The extra volume is nice but the restrictions imposed by the thermostat (about 2 1/4 sq in) will pretty much determine how much volume the pump can move so I'm not sure how much the system can take advantage of the extra volume of the Evens pump, my guess is "not by much".
What I do like about the Evens pump is the parabolic impeller vanes which will "displace" the water to the outside of the scroll where the sheet metal OEM pump acts more as a paddle wheel and more or less "flings" it there. Not the best arraignment to minimize cavitation. To reduce drag and cavitation even more I polished the cast surface of the pump and turned down the hub.
before
after
It's too bad Evens no longer makes this pump. With what's available I think I would be leaning toward the OE Cobra pump posted above. The Stewart 4.6 pump looks like a good choice as well
This one looks to be at the bottom of the mod motor heap
I'm not a huge fan of electric water pumps. They do have some advantages mainly in a dedicated drag racer. In a streetcar it adds a whole new set of things that can go wrong. Adding a controller will extend it's capability by regulating it's flow but now adds electronics to the mix now your depending on something as small as a diode. On a mechanical driven water pump I'm pretty much assured as long as that belt is spinning that pulley the pump will push water and is regulated by engine speed.
The next place the coolant goes exiting the water pump are the ports to both banks of cylinders on either side of the scroll. You can see them in the picture above showing the recirc plug. They are a bit larger in the Boss block than the Romeo. Not much improvement to be found here other then snoothing some of the casting flash and surface finish.
Once the coolant enters the cylinder water jacket it just empties into a large cavity. Cylinders don't get as hot as the heads so they don't pay as much attention to the distribution of coolant in the block (passing it on thru the heads is a different story). What I can say is the iron 4.6 and the 5.4 blocks uses full 360 degree cooling around the cylinders which is optimal for maintain cylinder roundness. The Boss and aluminum blocks all have "siamesed" cylinders which is both good and bad depending on the config. Having the bore with a web connecting the cylinders has the benefit of stiffening the block but it can also distort the cylinders as it heats up and flexed during periods of high loading. As you thin the space between the cylinders it gets worse. The 5.8 block with sleeves comes to mind. I think it leaves about .040" of aluminum between the bores at it thinnest point which to me is horrifying! I can only imagine how the continuity of stresses imposed on those cylinders are distributed in a very uneven way which is something that you don't want.
One of the aspects of this hobby that makes it so fun is the level of technical involvement with what your doing can go as deep as you want to take it. I would say the more you plan on pushing your engine these little details start to take on more meaning. I'll move-on to the coolant transition to the heads and the heads themselves next.
:beer: