All things that can be changed out or modified, ive done it all. My SC Drag car has an auto because its consistent. Thats about 90% of it, but im seeing 6 sec passes. And Usually those High horspower cars have a hybrid tranny, its not just AUTO. like F1 cars, WRC, ALMS GT, use automated clutches, some* cars have up shifts controlled, but almost all have down shifting driver controlled, driver still rev matches. There are PLENTY of manual options out there with a different egagement mechanism. The other thing that these Auto guys dont understand from thier coolio ford auto tranny to an actual racing tranny thats actually pulling the high HP and crazy times is the "dogs." Dogs are basically no more than cogs on a slider. The shifter pushes them into a receiver ring which engages the gear it is attached to. There is a separate dog and receiver for each gear in the transmission. On a racing transmission, there is a lot of "slop" (the gaps in the receiver are a lot larger than the teeth on the dog), which makes it easier to move into and out of the gears at higher rpms without fully engaging the clutch. Just like a full-blown race car, a racing transmission would be a nightmare around town but is a dream come true on the track. So in essence just becasue you bought a ford 5.0 Auto car, you are not on your way to High HP builds and single digit timslips just all free willy...
MT82 transmission on the 2013
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All things that can be changed out or modified, ive done it all. My SC Drag car has an auto because its consistent. Thats about 90% of it, but im seeing 6 sec passes. And Usually those High horspower cars have a hybrid tranny, its not just AUTO. like F1 cars, WRC, ALMS GT, use automated clutches, some* cars have up shifts controlled, but almost all have down shifting driver controlled, driver still rev matches. There are PLENTY of manual options out there with a different egagement mechanism. The other thing that these Auto guys dont understand from thier coolio ford auto tranny to an actual racing tranny thats actually pulling the high HP and crazy times is the "dogs." Dogs are basically no more than cogs on a slider. The shifter pushes them into a receiver ring which engages the gear it is attached to. There is a separate dog and receiver for each gear in the transmission. On a racing transmission, there is a lot of "slop" (the gaps in the receiver are a lot larger than the teeth on the dog), which makes it easier to move into and out of the gears at higher rpms without fully engaging the clutch. Just like a full-blown race car, a racing transmission would be a nightmare around town but is a dream come true on the track. So in essence just becasue you bought a ford 5.0 Auto car, you are not on your way to High HP builds and single digit timslips just all free willy...
by a nose?? thats it? I raced a stock boss and had him by about 1 1/2 slowly pulling with my X pipe and tune only.
the experts have deeps pockets and will do things with this car that 98% of us wont ever do or see. These are built tranny by a long shot too lol:bored:
Z250H, You are also talking transmissions that cost tens of thousands of dollars or more. A typical "clutchless" manual trans set up will start at an easy $15K and go up from there.
You want a sequential trans you are talking considerably more money than the car cost probably. The thread was referring to your typical mustang owner building a 7,8 or 9 second car. You are talking F1 budgets. haha WAY different ballgame.
You want a sequential trans you are talking considerably more money than the car cost probably. The thread was referring to your typical mustang owner building a 7,8 or 9 second car. You are talking F1 budgets. haha WAY different ballgame.
true to a point but these are built auto trans too making these crazy mustang passes. Power glides, ect. FAR FAR cry from the mustang gt auto. For example "vicarious Beast" quoted the top 9sec and under cars use auto, but NOT for the most part the Auto he owns which he fan boys, for example MMRs tranny is a Rossler Turbo 400 w/Continental torque convertor, PST carbon-fiber driveshaft and Precision Performance Products shifter not the 6r80 which he and others believe are some sort of game changer LOLOLOLOL
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Man, you need to relax. The 6R80 has had no problem dipping into the mid/low 9's. That is single digits. I never said anything about 8's, other than no manual MT82 car is going to get there.
and about the game changer comment, the 6R80 changed the way people view an auto in a Mustang. If you can't accept that, then we can agree to disagree.
Do you have 3.15 rear gears? No, I thought not.
The Boss LS has 3.73
and about the game changer comment, the 6R80 changed the way people view an auto in a Mustang. If you can't accept that, then we can agree to disagree.
Do you have 3.15 rear gears? No, I thought not.
The Boss LS has 3.73
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no i have 3.31 and the boss i raced had 3.73 also
SO you mean to say the .16 extra gearing i had makes almost a 2 car diff? think again
and I suppose this had nothing to do with it.....
weight reduction
My car is full weight. Also, if you do not mind me asking. How much do you weigh? I ask, because I weigh ~240 lbs. and someone who is 150-175 will make a difference as well. Big difference!
Did I also forget to mention that my 110 lb. fiance was riding with me. The Boss LS owner was riding solo. Again, please do not "boast" until all the facts are displayed.
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A Rossler Turbo 400 is not uncommon at all. They are about $4000. A Liberty Pro Stock Z clutchless trans costs about $8900 and how many of them do you see at the track near you? And a senquensial? Big money!
I am kind of agreeing with what you are saying. But this thread is geared towards street(able) cars that make big power and raced occasionally. If I had a half a million dollar budget for a race car you bet I would be looking at some more serious hardware. Give me a F1 budget and it would be something else. But just saying, your posts are geared towards big budget race teams versus a typical mustang owner who races on weekends.
I am kind of agreeing with what you are saying. But this thread is geared towards street(able) cars that make big power and raced occasionally. If I had a half a million dollar budget for a race car you bet I would be looking at some more serious hardware. Give me a F1 budget and it would be something else. But just saying, your posts are geared towards big budget race teams versus a typical mustang owner who races on weekends.
Something insane and fun about watching 9 second crazy manual trans car.. you know it could do 8's with the right auto - but the pure psycho launch and each gear hit leaving more rubber down... what's better the 8 second time or the crazy run?
I was also full weight, I weigh about 180 give or take a couple, but had a trunk full of 10 laptops with bags ( yes you can fit that many with careful engineering) but was solo. And so was the boss owner. I wasn't boasting, but a car and a half and still going is pretty significant. And I wasn't even power shifting. You should have laid out all the facts then, cant get mad at me for commenting on what I didn't know...
Bone stock TH400s ?
no stock transmission can hold 8 sec passes reliably :bored:.
exactly definitely not bone stock tranny, and definitely not the 6r80 either:rolling:
^ in bone-stock trim, the 6R80 holds a lot of power, more than most transmissions.
a semi-built 6R80 such as Beef's is going mid 8s... it holds the power, however at those power levels you may want to go with a glide as you get a trans brake and only 2 gears.
a semi-built 6R80 such as Beef's is going mid 8s... it holds the power, however at those power levels you may want to go with a glide as you get a trans brake and only 2 gears.
lol this is funny because it reminded me of something that happened to me on sunday. i was on my way to the gym with my friend and pulled next to a nice looking evo at a red light and it was just open road ahead. i told him lets go from the dig. and he told me.. no you have a v8......:shrug:
i love harrassing AWD cars with dig races. They allllllllllllways have an excuse...
*Transmission is going to break
*Transfer case
*Clutch
*Axles
*Front or rear differential
*"my car runs better from a low roll"
lol it's always something. Unless it's an all out "race car" with 800whp+ and built-everything and slicks on all 4 wheels, they usually never race from a dig.. or at least around here lmao. And if they do, they ain't fast from a dig... i usually pull them easily... not sure if driver error or what lol
Lol I know exactly What your talking taking about here!
Everyone suddenly doesn't want their car to turn corners but it should be able to.. that's why I ordered the brembo pkg. The ability to stop and turn plus ford left little brakes on the rear for when I throw slicks on it!! Go ford! And in 2011 and 12 you couldn't get the brembo kit with an automatic because you cannot take an auto around a track. And yes I hang out with other BMW track guys. Its nice to pull them from a light and out of a corner! And zero trans issues despite many laps and 1/4 launches.. I will say if ford developed a real paddle shift system like in a lambo or Ferrari and I don't need it to shift in under the blink of an eye. But if it rev matched down shifts and shifted when you tapped the paddle.... I might convert.. till then the MT-82 is beautiful, shifts smooth, each gear clicks in with a positive thunk, and ease of shift? It takes 2 fingers and light pressure
Mt82 sucks!!!!!
Boss VS CTSV Round 3 # 2 - YouTube
Boss VS Turbo Cobra 11lbs (503whp unlocked) - YouTube
Made about 57 pulls like that last night.
Mcleod + worked MT82 = effortless 8k-rpm shifts
Boss VS CTSV Round 3 # 2 - YouTube
Boss VS Turbo Cobra 11lbs (503whp unlocked) - YouTube
Made about 57 pulls like that last night.
Mcleod + worked MT82 = effortless 8k-rpm shifts
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