Are they putting Ram 3500 Cummins in F650/750 sized trucks?
Cummins, Detroit Diesel, and Caterpillar all make engines for semi-trucks. Powerstrokes, and Duramaxes are not found in semi-trucks, and bigger trucks in that size class.
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Are they putting Ram 3500 Cummins in F650/750 sized trucks?
Cummins, Detroit Diesel, and Caterpillar all make engines for semi-trucks. Powerstrokes, and Duramaxes are not found in semi-trucks, and bigger trucks in that size class.
Ive had a fair share of ford diesel's 2005 f-450,a 2006 f-550 and a 2008 f-550. All company lease plan work trucks we keep them till 140000 miles then trade them in, we have a fleet of them and all of them have had so many problems.We are always taking them back to ford dealerships to fix. The 08 imo was alot better than previous years but I took it to the dealer 3 times for major work (turbos, head gasket,smog crap etc.)And I only had the truck from 20000 to 55000 mile mark now it's someone else's problem.All the new work trucks they buy are now dodge I have a brand new 5500 cummins and I love it so far more torque and so smooth on the freeway ,and the interior for a work truck far to nice.
Are you retarded or just trying to be? Do you know what GCWR is? It's the maximum gross combined weight allowable...and I posted it to show how closely they are matched in not just towing but in total cargo ability. Learn to read & comprehend before you try and correct someone. The Ram 3500 was what, 25.5k with the Max Tow package and is still behind Ford & Dodge.
Wow you have some spent up anger inside you don't you? Yes you did quote GCVWR #'s. I quoted tow numbers(something totally different)after your comment about Dodge not hauling as much as you think. Who really cares in the end, their all descent trucks that will get the job done, if your in the market giver, you probably can't go wrong with any of them.
they put 5.9 Cummins ISBs in the F650/750s..nothing special. Same motor as the 3500
They do offer the powerstroke, Detriot and a Cat also I do believe so you tell me why????
Sorry, but I know for a fact that the new Cummins has nowhere near the power of the Duramax or the Powerstroke. Hell last time I checked the Ford could pull the complete load a Dodge can and then put the 3500 dual rear wheel truck on it then meet its towing capacity....
How do you figure, Dodge has 800ft/pounds for 2011 but it somehow was left out of the test. GM 765ft/pounds and Ford 800.
im looking at the Ford.com page right now and only see the Cummins optioned.
2011 Ford F-650/F-750 Work Trucks | View Photos, Features & Pricing | Ford.com
Really? Thats great man I would of paid money to hear that.
Well first off it's better to be Stroked than Rammed.
Secondly Dodge does not own Cummins. They just contract them to make the motors for their diesel truck the same way Ford is for their bigger trucks. Typically a CAT engine is also an option, but they are currently absent in that market starting 2010.
Seriously a 3/4 ton Ram is a good truck. My dad owns a 2001 Ram 3500 and is a great truck other than its ridiculously stiff clutch that's stiffer than the clutches on the flatbeds at work. Still Ford makes an excellent 3/4 truck, and the sale a lot more of them than anyone else. I've know plenty of people who swear by them, and have them with higher mileage.
My dad use to have a 95 Silverado 3500 with the old 6.5 Detroit Diesel, and that was the biggest POS truck I have ever seem. Still I'm sure many have had them and thought they were great truck. That motor is obviously good enough for the Humvee, but it gave my dad fits. All in all Powerstroke is a very good motor, and I'm sure the new Scorpion would work just fine in the F650/F750 if Ford so decided to use it in them. Remember this is the first year Ford is building their own Diesel v8 for their 3/4 ton truck. They are only going to get better.
BTW the F650/F750 uses the current 6.7L Cummins diesel. They also mate it to a Allison tranny.
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Jesus man, how many times are we going to discuss this. The Dodge isn't rated nearly as high in towing as the Ford or Chevy and that is the reason it isn't included. Christ, Dodge's chassis cab is the only thing rated to hang with the Ford or Chevy...but we aren't looking at chassis cabs now are we? I hope you're not a representative of the Canadian school system.
It's a little legal binding piece of paper called a contract.
so they desire to continue to build brand morale but not putting its AMAZING diesel in a true HD truck? What contract exactly is it that they would sign that makes them legaly binded to NOT put there own built/manufactured engine in their own vehicle?
AND i have seen/been part of more than a few situations where the little legal binding piece of paper called a contract didnt hold an once of weight.
In most cases they sign contracts that they will buy x number of engines from y-manufacturer for z amount of years. I imagine that a big chunk of Internationals income from the past 20 years or so has come from their contract with FoMoCo.
I guess you missed post 55 when I posted tow ratings.
but whatever you win. I can only argue with mentally retarded idiots for so long.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, even though this was an older F650 but about two weeks ago we had a F650 in the shop with a 6.0 in it so yes they do put the PSD in them. Also like stated above the Cat was an option. Hell one of our main diesel techs had a F650 with a Cummins in it. The reason he choose it and I quote "it was cheaper" he said he would have rather had a 6.0 but it cost more. Can I vouche for this? No because I dont know the pricing on it and didnt ask either.
A comparison video by Chevorlet, i wonder who is going to win? lol
Hell yes I looked at my girl and said I cannot believe I don't have my phone out for this!! I will see if she know what CEO was in the video, I was not looking forward to sitting at a chevy dealership until I heard that stuff.
I'm sure everyone will still think I'm bullshitting but I heard it and loved it!!
But then again I have only owned fords since I was 16 so what do I know. Haha
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