thought the weight was covered already.
do a breakdown of weight differences between the different components then. easiest way.
do a breakdown of weight differences between the different components then. easiest way.
TRXboy said:Yesm witch would explain why an 05 GT is, what, 3500 and change? Theres the 40% increase in stiffness, now where the hell is the GT500 getting the extra 300 on top of that.
chuckstang said:Dude you car is a pig and you do realize that there is more then just peak hp oke:
Term owners will have a rude awakening when these things come out and start to get modded.
The bigger motor and more efficient blower plus the solid axle will kill you from a dig and will have that much more top end with the added cubes.
Almo said:My car is a pig? The GT500 isn't? That is what I am trying to point out, how ironic of you to mention the obvious. Somebody get this kid some cookies!
And what do you mean about peak HP? You act like the curve on one will be so much different than the other. :lol1: You're barking up the wrong tree if you think you're explaining curves to me. :nono:
You act like the GT500s are going to run circles around the 03/04s.
475 SAE BHP = right at 420 to the wheels with a live axle if numbers are truly SAE registered by Ford.
Me personally, seeing many Cobras putting down 385 to the wheels and still being stock -- add 50 CI more with another Lysholm blower and you're looking at 40-50 more HP with a little better TQ curve. That would put the GT500 right about 425-435 to the wheels. If indeed a GT500 makes this at the wheels which I feel will be fairly easy, adding 200-300 more pounds and the only thing you're going to notice is a bit more kick in the seat from the TQ curve and the live axle, especially from a dig if you compare it to a 03/04. Other than that, Stock for Stock the GT500 isn't going to put bus lengths on the 03/04s as you act like it will do.
And back to your pig statement. I actually agree with you, my Cobra feels like it weighs a ton. I guess coming out of a 650 RWHP GT that weighed in right at 3100 lbs. would have me say this.
Formula51 said:I am not a GT500 hater, but we should be realistic. Based on the info we have seen recently it is +/- 300lbs heavier than the 03/04 Cobra.
03/04 Cobra=3650lbs
Shelby GT500=3920lbs
Fourcam330 said:Like I said before, the 03/04s didn't have a prayer of running 130 traps in the quarter with a stock longblock/blower. The Terms were nice cars, but their performance is going to be eclipsed just as always happens when a newer model arrives. Not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.
Aside from the motor having assloads more potential, not everyone wants to pimp a 79 Fairmont chassis nor band aid IRS.
ac427cobra said:This car is a complete different chassis from the "ground up". It is approximately 40% stiffer than a SN95 chassis. That's where a lot of the weight is coming from.
People need to get a refill on their Prozac!! Give the weight a rest! Nobody seems to remember going through this four years ago with the '03?!??!! I still remember the '99 and '01 gang saying "man that '03 is such a heavy pig, my (insert year Cobra here) will kill that thing because it weighs 200# more than my car!!!" :rollseyes Didn't they get a surprise?!! :read:
Almo said:475 SAE BHP = right at 420 to the wheels with a live axle if numbers are truly SAE registered by Ford.
bobosfocus said:Remember what happened with the GT. Ford said 550, the first ones dyno'ed at 605!
Almo said:You really think a GT500 is going to trap 130 with a stock longblock/blower? :lol1:
Fourcam330 said:I'll bet dollars to donuts. All it will take at 4050lbs is 600rw, which is no problem.
Fourcam330 said:What's it take to get a svelte 3850lb (200lb driver plus 3650lb coupe) 03/04 to trap 130+ in the 1/4?
HISSMAN said:I agree with that 100%, but he did also state with the stock blower, and I just can't see it making 600rwhp with the stock blower. Stock long block yes, but the blower will be the limiter.
MedVader said:A Whipple/KB twin screw/exhaust/big ass cone intake/tune.
A fella named the TheWiz did it about year ago over ModularFords.
He still ended up hurting his motor eventually and having to do a rebuild. But nevertheless, he did it. A stock Cobra plus the 3 mods and tune on the IRS/T56.
bobosfocus said:Remember what happened with the GT. Ford said 550, the first ones dyno'ed at 605!
Fourcam330 said:Aside from the motor having assloads more potential, not everyone wants to pimp a 79 Fairmont chassis nor band aid IRS.
Fourcam330 said:I'll bet dollars to donuts. All it will take at 4050lbs is 600rw, which is no problem.
Fourcam330 said:Exactly, you need an aftermarket twin screw.