That sounds like it adds up. The exhaust note you year is the bi mode opening up on the Z06. Gives a great exhaust note.
"stock" C6Z06 vs 09 GT500
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Idk about that dirty, guess it depends on how aggressive the setup z is. The one's I've ran still see tail lights but were in the 560-570 range.
Interesting. Have you run your car at the 1/4 track at all, or done any 60-150+ timed pulls ?
I'm in that power range that you mention...just interested in how your car's numbers compares to mine.
The test n tunes I've been to were just car against car so no slips, not the best track anyways. I haven't timed them but the runs we do start from either a dig or 20, 40, 65 up to 140 depending on how they want to run. Even on my old ported pullied eaton I could run door to door with a heads intake Z in a drivers race. Haven't had the chance to put my new setup on the dyno but my guess would be ~700 whp. The hci cars I've ran with I'm able to snatch by 1-1.5 cars depending on the start point.
Night runs that wouldn't be much of a vid besides headlights and exhaust anyways so I don't bother. Some of my best runs I've had during the day against a zl1 and gtr I couldn't get a passenger soon enough for a vid, sadly. Most of the meets around here are at night for obvious reasons.
To me, yes it sounds like his Z was stock. I have several friends with the C6 Z06 and they are very fast stock for the horsepower given their gearing and weight. My friends '12 z bone stock would run right with my stock '14 GT500.
I can agree with what you're saying. But you're not running neck and neck with the OP's car. He has 40+ RHWP over a stock 13/14, similar weight. My swapped 09 made 630ish and trapped 131. I'd put 5-6 lengths easy on a STOCK 13/14.
You certainly wouldn't think so, would you? Given he has trapped a best of 125mph before his gears, and 122 after ( granted I don't believe that's an accurate assessment of what the car is capable of ), I would say there isn't that much difference given the stock times a lot of guys have pulled in their stock '13/14 GT500's. I have not run mine yet as our local track is terrible at track prep ( I used to race there often with previous cars ) and my car is stock right down to the terrible tires, I want to wait until I can show up with better traction.
Not to bench race, but given that many guys have went 124-127mph in these cars stock, I would say I would have a fighting chance. Wouldn't you? If that vette isn't stock, its darn close to it.
The easy explanation for me regarding the OP's car performance is that he lives in the Phoenix metro area, and his CORRECTED RWHP was 630 (done in Florida, and probably on better octane fuel). That CORRECTED power rating don't mean squat when you're running in Phoenix in the heat of summer on 91 pump gas.....especially if you're FI. In 105+ degree weather, FI cars without some serious IAT management is going to suffer more RWHP loss than a NA car when using the same 91 pump gas, IMHO. As I had noted earlier, I have a few friends that owned 13/14 GT500's and ran several of these on the highway. In the winter time, traction and driver being equal, it's pretty much a dead heat. I give a slight edge to the GT500, especially when the Z goes into 4th gear at 124+ MPH as the RPM drop is pretty big given the big transmission gear drop. I run that same car in the dead of summer, it's a completely different race.....I'll have pulled several cars lengths. Heat soak and high IAT can be a bitch.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
One other thing, and I know this starts arguments ALL the time here......
If you take the average corrected chassis dyno number for a bone stock C6 Z06 at 445 RWHP....
If you take the average, posted, corrected chassis dyno number for a bone stock 13/14 GT500 at 585 RWHP....
Factory rated power of SAE 505 HP versus SAE 662 gives you 157 HP difference.
Chassis dyno are pretty close....you're looking at roughly 150 RWHP difference.
Take your 13/14 GT500 "Fast List" of the 15 posted fastest trap speeds of the bone stock GT500, they average at 123.8 MPH.
Take the same 15 best posted trap speeds of bone stock C6 Z06's from the Fast List on that board, they average at 124.26 MPH.......within .5 MPH of one another.
We know ET's are going to be based on traction, 60' and 330' times, driver skills shifting a manual transmission, et al. , so the ET's are not of much value here....but the trap speeds will be a valid comparison.
You need roughly a 150 RWHP advantage on average to match a C6 Z06.
FYI..... on Dr's I would trap 123 in the heat of summer here in Phoenix, and 127+ in the dead of winter.....with my PB being in the 129's on three occasions.
If you take the average corrected chassis dyno number for a bone stock C6 Z06 at 445 RWHP....
If you take the average, posted, corrected chassis dyno number for a bone stock 13/14 GT500 at 585 RWHP....
Factory rated power of SAE 505 HP versus SAE 662 gives you 157 HP difference.
Chassis dyno are pretty close....you're looking at roughly 150 RWHP difference.
Take your 13/14 GT500 "Fast List" of the 15 posted fastest trap speeds of the bone stock GT500, they average at 123.8 MPH.
Take the same 15 best posted trap speeds of bone stock C6 Z06's from the Fast List on that board, they average at 124.26 MPH.......within .5 MPH of one another.
We know ET's are going to be based on traction, 60' and 330' times, driver skills shifting a manual transmission, et al. , so the ET's are not of much value here....but the trap speeds will be a valid comparison.
You need roughly a 150 RWHP advantage on average to match a C6 Z06.
FYI..... on Dr's I would trap 123 in the heat of summer here in Phoenix, and 127+ in the dead of winter.....with my PB being in the 129's on three occasions.
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Nice work putting that together!
My Z is slow as ballz. I only trapped 116 bone stock.
Clarification on fuel. I have a 93 tune. I run 91 with 32oz of torco. Did not want to get retuned till i get a lower pulley and full exhaust and fuel mods. I was happy with the outcome because my car surely had to be heatsoaked. I want to see the difference between a winter and summer run to see if it makes a big difference.
Where do you live, and what did your slip look like ?
Way back when, I did several passes using only 3rd gear, 4th gear, and 5th gear only. I trapped 117 MPH using only 3rd gear
5th only:
60' 4.1345
330' 10.6382
1/8 ET 15.1960
1/8 MPH 57.04
1000' ET 18.6206
1000' MPH 71.23
1/4 ET 21.4935
1/4 MPH 85.90
4th only:
60' 4.0069
330' 9.6356
1/8 ET 13.3771
1/8 MPH 69.25 MPH
1000' ET 16.1951
1000' MPH 85.73 MPH
1/4 ET 18.5271
1/4 MPH 104.24 MPH
3rd only:
60' 2.9054
330' 7.2776
1/8 ET 10.3074
1/8 MPH 86.77 MPH
1000' ET 12.6077
1000' MPH 105.31 MPH
1/4 ET 14.5900
1/4 MPH 117.43 MPH
It will.
Data logging can tell you a LOT about what works and doesn't work, so if possible I'd look at getting some logs on your car at the track to see where you can make adjustments. Knowledge is KING !!! LOL
Where do you live, and what did your slip look like ?
Way back when, I did several passes using only 3rd gear, 4th gear, and 5th gear only. I trapped 117 MPH using only 3rd gear
5th only:
60' 4.1345
330' 10.6382
1/8 ET 15.1960
1/8 MPH 57.04
1000' ET 18.6206
1000' MPH 71.23
1/4 ET 21.4935
1/4 MPH 85.90
4th only:
60' 4.0069
330' 9.6356
1/8 ET 13.3771
1/8 MPH 69.25 MPH
1000' ET 16.1951
1000' MPH 85.73 MPH
1/4 ET 18.5271
1/4 MPH 104.24 MPH
3rd only:
60' 2.9054
330' 7.2776
1/8 ET 10.3074
1/8 MPH 86.77 MPH
1000' ET 12.6077
1000' MPH 105.31 MPH
1/4 ET 14.5900
1/4 MPH 117.43 MPH
I was being a bit facetious.
Track Altitude is 48XX something or another
The DA was upwards of around 8000ft.
I went
.4348 reaction
2.1201 60FT
5.7 330ft
8.5 1/8
88.69mph 1/8mph
10.9230 1000ft
12.89 1/4 mile
116.04 Mph
That was with traction control on and stock runflats.
11:57am on 7-26-2014
Drag times DA calculator has that as
11.683 @ 127.617 MPH
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Why race a car not in your class?
A Vette is a two seat Fiberglass Sports Car, a GT500 is a Steel Muscle Car, very tough to compete against true sportscars.
A Vette is a two seat Fiberglass Sports Car, a GT500 is a Steel Muscle Car, very tough to compete against true sportscars.
Because.... racecar. Honestly i like closer races, i also like the fact i can beat a z06.... and the camaros around here..... well they are slow
They both have 4 wheels. Same class
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