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SVT’s Jamal Hameedi Weighs-In With His Opinion of The 2013 GT500 @ The Nürburgring
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Hey crybaby, here's a GM nutsack for you to choke on:
Now go crawling back to your fellow crybabies at the camero forums, and stop threadsh1tting, save it for your diaper.
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Well aren't you condescending, terrible at reading comprehension and delusional to boot. You aren't worth the key strokes. Keep truckin' brother!!! :beer:
Sorry.. been pretty busy with work with not quite as much forum browsing time.. Quick... No.. Ford does not have a direct competitor to the CTS-V sedan. It is a 4-Door. But let's talk about that 2-door coupe. Would you not say it would be more in line as a competitor to the GT500?
No it would not.....last I checked Ford was not a luxury brand, and the GT500 was not a luxury sports coupe.
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I agree. While they could be cross-shopped, they really aren't direct competitors. The V is more luxury, quieter, nicer interior, smoother (magnetic suspension), but still great handling, 100 less horsepower, heavier by about 500lbs, etc.
The Shelby is lighter, louder, more road noise, rougher suspension, 100 more horsepower, noticeably faster, sounds much better, not as nice of an interior, more fun to drive, cooler looking IMO, etc.
They are both high horsepower, RWD Coupes so in that sense they are similar.
I didn't really consider a '13 Shelby when I got my '12 V because I wanted a bulletproof automatic since it would be my daily driver in DFW. For shifting fun, I have the Vette. I still think they are very cool. I saw one in Valley Ranch yesterday evening. Black 13/14 GT500. It looked awesome. I pulled beside and looked over expecting to see a dude. Not kidding, it was a 5'3" ish Asian girl. She could barely see over the dash. Definitely wasn't expecting that. Good for her though. She sounded like she was shifting pretty good, just cruising.
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Well if you want to get technical, Cadillac is not really a "luxury" car.. at least when compared to real luxury brands. Sort of like Kia trying to make a luxury car. Cadillac is the redheaded stepchild of "luxury"
Actually Cadillac is the father of luxury cars. Before Cadillac existed, you had to hand crank the engine to start it. Much of what you take for granted today came from Cadillac. Electric lights, self-adjusting timing, steel roof, V8/V12/V16 engines, auto headlights, turn signals, etc.
The concept that luxury cars were born overseas is laughable.
Or that a MB or BMW is made of solid gold with no plastic, and has perfect ergo.
For over a decade I've been reading how luxurious German Cars were. I kept trying to figure which models they were talking about. The ones I drove seemed like cars on the inside.
Plant your ass in a 1960's anything. Then drive a 60's Cad.
Nothing compared except perhaps Rolls.
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Watching a Racing Legend Like Randy Proebst run each car on the same Road course all while telling you about the handling, braking, acceleration characteristics is invaluable. That is what I listen to as I stopped by Saleen one time when they were getting ready for a Performance test and watched them dumping 114 Race Gas into the tank and bumping up the timing on a Blown Windsor Mustang. I'm not claiming foul as everyone does it!. Its all about the claimed time and bragging rights. Look how many times the Nissan GTR has been posting times of late as its on a Mission. Having cars that are full on RACE Cars with no back seat and full cages and weigh less than 3000 lbs. is not realistic and does not represent real cars made for the masses. just my 2,2,2,2,2 & 2 cents!!
If you want to get technical followed by the most absolutely wrong statement I have read on the internet in months.
Cadillac shares a father with Lincoln actually.
A rock solid automatic and a package that adds some more sound deadening and I would have seriously considered a 500 for a DD.
Have to respectfully disagree on Cadillac. Maybe a decade ago, I would agree with you, but Caddy is coming on very, very strong recently. The new ATS and CTS are world class and there is a new S/7 series competitor coming. Cadillac may not be 100% there yet on BMW, Audi, and Mercedes quite yet, but they are closing fast and hard.
My V has been very solid and I did a corporate lease on the car so I drive it accordingly (27k miles so far driving it like a rental) and it's been very solid. You can tell there is a lot of engineering and durability baked into the car.
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I have nothing against Cadillac.. If I wanted a nice fast auto tranny car, I would definitely go for a CTSV Coupe. I also wish an auto was offered in the GT500. I have actually considered doing a 6r swap from the 5.0's.
What is GM's response to the Raptor and ST?
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...and GM makes nothing to compete with the GT500 and Raptor. :shrug:
Ok.. so they USED to be a leader in Luxury.
What car is as luxurious as any 2013 Cadillac in it's price/performance area?
Cad has come back from certain death, and is a money maker again.
It's certainly not because it's a poor value in the luxury car market.
You can never beat Snob Appeal though. Some people need to show others their Rolex and insist it keeps better time, and is worth every penny.
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