Racing Integration Twin kit for the coyote... Pic inside

[BMR Tech]

Way too expensive. There is no way that kit costs half that to produce.

Have you build a twin turbo Kit for a car, that uses the highest of quality components, performs, and fits precisely?

3 years ago, a 70" LED TV cost $6000. Now, you can get one that is better for $1298. The price to develop an item has to be considered in the price tag - and a low volume item, this is even more so the case.

As for the cost of the materials, correct - you could probably buy everything for a lot cheaper than the kit. As for selling price, why do so many people think they should only have to pay what something cost to build? Time is worth money, and if you don't think RI (or any other of these companies) has a metric crap-ton of hours and money into these kits - you are sadly mistaken. :beer:

Thankfully, the S197 Customer base seems to be pretty good when it comes to supporting quality companies, by purchasing their quality components. There is a reason our cheapest LCA cost $140....instead of $99 or cheaper - I don't see those people supporting any/all of you on a daily basis.:rockon:

 

[mastwolf]

Way too expensive. There is no way that kit costs half that to produce.

Talent, Labor, Parts, and R&D are cheap........


Got a chance to talk to Collin a little bit at FL2k, Nice guy and the kit looks good! I'd like to get a chance to go heads up with him, I know we will both be well into the 9's in due time!

Turbos taking over.

 

[BMR Tech]

All Tampa is missing is an On3 car, and a Motiva car, I think.

We could have an event, with solely power adder Coyotes here....and it would be packed! lol

 

[mastwolf]

All Tampa is missing is an On3 car, and a Motiva car, I think.

We could have an event, with solely power adder Coyotes here....and it would be packed! lol

Sponsored by bmr?


Is this a call out? LOL!

Lets get something together.

Stock Motor Class
Mod Motor Class

Would be pretty cool.

 

[04compgt]

All Tampa is missing is an On3 car, and a Motiva car, I think.

We could have an event, with solely power adder Coyotes here....and it would be packed! lol

If On3 or Motiva would like to donate a turbo kit, I will gladly be the first to test their product in the Tampa area for this shootout LOL!

 

[beefcake]

the black looks pretty good in there.

 

[StevenStarke]

Way too expensive. There is no way that kit costs half that to produce.

Are you that disconnected with reality?

2 Precision gates COST a shop a minimum of $500.
2 Precision turbos COST a shop a minimum of $1500
1 BOV Costs about $215
1 Quality intercooler core is going to cost $300 or so

Now SS header flanges, the flanges for the turbo, the tubing, down pipe flanges, that tubing, Intercooler pipes, brackets, hoses, SS lines, etc...

Just the materials are $3000+ and then the hours to fabricate it all, package it, etc... Anything under $8000 is a DEAL for a twin kit.

 

[Fabbed5.0]

Way too expensive. There is no way that kit costs half that to produce.

And the most Uneducated award goes to ^^^^^^:bash::bash:

amazes me what some people say, You don't even know what is involved in his "KIT" how can you even make the ASSumption you did?

 

[badbiach]

I like the black look!

 

[D.T.R]

Are you that disconnected with reality?

2 Precision gates COST a shop a minimum of $500.
2 Precision turbos COST a shop a minimum of $1500
1 BOV Costs about $215
1 Quality intercooler core is going to cost $300 or so

Now SS header flanges, the flanges for the turbo, the tubing, down pipe flanges, that tubing, Intercooler pipes, brackets, hoses, SS lines, etc...

Just the materials are $3000+ and then the hours to fabricate it all, package it, etc... Anything under $8000 is a DEAL for a twin kit.

and you're being nice. I'm pretty sure 2 6266s costs them more than $1500... especially since they just raised their price.

 

[BMR Tech]

Well, retail is probably more than $2000 for the 6266's...alone.

 

[Monster5.0]

And the most Uneducated award goes to ^^^^^^:bash::bash:

amazes me what some people say, You don't even know what is involved in his "KIT" how can you even make the ASSumption you did?

I design impellers for industrial turbos you DOLT!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOL I think I know a little something about commercial and industrial turbos. Some people.

 

[Monster5.0]

Are you that disconnected with reality?

2 Precision gates COST a shop a minimum of $500.
2 Precision turbos COST a shop a minimum of $1500
1 BOV Costs about $215
1 Quality intercooler core is going to cost $300 or so

Now SS header flanges, the flanges for the turbo, the tubing, down pipe flanges, that tubing, Intercooler pipes, brackets, hoses, SS lines, etc...

Just the materials are $3000+ and then the hours to fabricate it all, package it, etc... Anything under $8000 is a DEAL for a twin kit.

You are not entitled to get your design/fab time back on every kit. You can recoup your cost on maybe two kits. After that its 60% markup. Think thats fair????? Drop that price to $5495 and sell 10x more than you ever will and maybe learn something about business. Why do you think the blower kits sell so well??? Not because they are better or more efficient than turbos.

 

[Scuba-Matt]

Great looking setup.

 

[Screamin363]

You are not entitled to get your design/fab time back on every kit. You can recoup your cost on maybe two kits. After that its 60% markup. Think thats fair????? Drop that price to $5495 and sell 10x more than you ever will and maybe learn something about business. Why do you think the blower kits sell so well??? Not because they are better or more efficient than turbos.

Do you realize your business plan (you stated) is to work harder for less money?

:shrug:

I need 20 guys like you working for me!!!
I'll work you like a dog and pay you less.

 

[Blazer707@TBR]

You are not entitled to get your design/fab time back on every kit. You can recoup your cost on maybe two kits. After that its 60% markup. Think thats fair????? Drop that price to $5495 and sell 10x more than you ever will and maybe learn something about business. Why do you think the blower kits sell so well??? Not because they are better or more efficient than turbos.

I dont know if anyone can tell but this guy doesnt agree with any thread. He does the shit on purpose.

I personally am happy more turbo kits are coming out. I like to see different kits.

 

[Scuba-Matt]

Do you realize your business plan (you stated) is to work harder for less money?

:shrug:

He must not. And obliviously doesn't know how business works, or hasn't been around the world of car and engine modifying very long.
R&D cost $$$$ and so does speed.

 

[Fabbed5.0]

Do you realize your business plan (you stated) is to work harder for less money?

:shrug:

I need 20 guys like you working for me!!!
I'll work you like a dog and pay you less.

He must not. And obliviously doesn't know how business works, or hasn't been around the world of car and engine modifying very long.
R&D cost $$$$ and so does speed.

LMAO glad you guys can understand how a business work.

 

[sleek98]

You are not entitled to get your design/fab time back on every kit. You can recoup your cost on maybe two kits. After that its 60% markup. Think thats fair????? Drop that price to $5495 and sell 10x more than you ever will and maybe learn something about business. Why do you think the blower kits sell so well??? Not because they are better or more efficient than turbos.

Pretty sure the paxton/vortech kits started out around 6k and are now down to 4,600ish.

It takes time the first year or two are higher priced. I am guessing in 2 years the TT kits will be selling for around 6k. It cost alot more to produce these than the supercharger kits so they will always be more expensive.

 

[BMR Tech]

You are not entitled to get your design/fab time back on every kit. You can recoup your cost on maybe two kits. After that its 60% markup. Think thats fair????? Drop that price to $5495 and sell 10x more than you ever will and maybe learn something about business. Why do you think the blower kits sell so well??? Not because they are better or more efficient than turbos.

We will be glad to recoup our cost of design on the first two K-Members that we sell for the S550 when it comes out. Hopefully you buy one, and are our first customer for that piece. Just an educated guess, I would be able to give you a "good" deal on yours at somewhere in the range of about $18,000.

As for your "plan of success" - that is exactly how and why there are so many junk parts available today. In this industry, you will ALWAYS get better products, and better support, from companies who do not sell on volume.

Your theory about business is too bias towards a segment that can maximize profits, by having a linear demand curve, and a large amount of competitors.