2014 GT500 vs. 2004 EVO

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Stock turbo Evos running 10's? LOL you are so full of shit I think you are starting to believe your own nonsense.

You act like its no big deal for an Evo to run 10's when they can barely break into the 12's with a stock turbo. It takes a built engine to break into the 11's, not to mention they are the most unreliable performance vehicle you can own, its a Mitsubishi.

You are just too ignorant to even bother saving, just give up and stop posting.

:lol::lol:.....thanks man I needed a laugh. Last time link were posted proving your ignorance you never came back with a reply. I get a laugh out of you so because of that I won't run you off
 

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:lol::lol:.....thanks man I needed a laugh. Last time link were posted proving your ignorance you never came back with a reply. I get a laugh out of you so because of that I won't run you off

Keep being wrong and posting garbage, you just make an ass out of yourself. I'm sure you are used to that though seeing as that sums up your entire life very well :kaboom:

You couldn't run a chicken out of a barn, you are completely retarded.
 
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Keep being wrong and posting garbage, you just make an ass out of yourself. I'm sure you are used to that though seeing as that sums up your entire life very well :kaboom:

You couldn't run a chicken out of a barn, you are completely retarded.

Lol, like I said...last time we disagreed about some facts a link was posted proving you wrong and you disappeared. The stuff you say about the evo having a hard time getting into the 12's on a stock turbo or needing a built motor to run 10's is naïve it doesn't even need to be proved wrong with a long showing other wise. Keep living in your dream world, as long as it works for you :shrug:
 

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Stock turbo Evos running 10's? LOL you are so full of shit I think you are starting to believe your own nonsense.

You act like its no big deal for an Evo to run 10's when they can barely break into the 12's with a stock turbo. It takes a built engine to break into the 11's, not to mention they are the most unreliable performance vehicle you can own, its a Mitsubishi.

You are just too ignorant to even bother saving, just give up and stop posting.

You have no idea what you are talking about.....damn Google should prevent his level of obtuse....

Let me google that for you
 

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Nobody is selling the gt500 short but a stock turbo evo has run 10's many times. A stock block evo has run mid 9's @ 140+.....my point is 10k in mods( go fast mods) on a evo can be an low as an high 8's-low 9's car. So again not taking away from the GT500 but a stock one vs evo with 10k in it, evo shouldn't have a problem pulling it..an awd car trapping 140's would have no problem with a mid 125 trapping car or at least it shouldn't

Just bolting on a 6262 or 6266 kit with a few flow and fuel mods would pull a stock gt500 and that wouldn't cost 10k to do.

Y'all are overselling a EVO then. Mods get expensive really quickly. You might can say that "I can take a stock Terminator and build a boost only 600 WHP car for $4K" and it might be possible if you budget the hell out of every mod, but in reality it wouldn't be smart. You want to use quality stuff when talking your exhaust, fuel system, MAF, SFC's, clutch, tires, tune, etc, etc to do a good job supporting a very powerful Mustang so now in reality you've likely spent $7K+ to get what a stock GT500 has stock. Sure you might can hit that HP # if you compromise on the mods you select to get there but I wouldn't. You are oversimplifying how cheap and easy it is to take a 2 liter 4 cylinder car with 276 BHP and go out and beat up on a 662 BHP GT500 in a roll race where it tends to excel. Again possible to do for $10K? Sure. Easy or is it necessarily going to happen? No.
 

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Y'all are overselling a EVO then. Mods get expensive really quickly. You might can say that "I can take a stock Terminator and build a boost only 600 WHP car for $4K" and it might be possible if you budget the hell out of every mod, but in reality it wouldn't be smart. You want to use quality stuff when talking your exhaust, fuel system, MAF, SFC's, clutch, tires, tune, etc, etc to do a good job supporting a very powerful Mustang so now in reality you've likely spent $7K+ to get what a stock GT500 has stock. Sure you might can hit that HP # if you compromise on the mods you select to get there but I wouldn't. You are oversimplifying how cheap and easy it is to take a 2 liter 4 cylinder car with 276 BHP and go out and beat up on a 662 BHP GT500 in a roll race where it tends to excel. Again possible to do for $10K? Sure. Easy or is it necessarily going to happen? No.

Whatever you say man. It is pointless to post links because all you or other ppl will do is make up another excuse . Any other platform besides the evo and I would agree with you but an evo is simply that easy to make fast. Have been for years now , so you can hold on the the GT500 one claim to fame but with an evo platform it would be easy to beat a stock one with 10k invested . I am not oversimplifying or exaggerating when I posted the info on evos .

How long have you been modding them or been in the evo scene?
 

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Whatever you say man. It is pointless to post links because all you or other ppl will do is make up another excuse . Any other platform besides the evo and I would agree with you but an evo is simply that easy to make fast. Have been for years now , so you can hold on the the GT500 one claim to fame but with an evo platform it would be easy to beat a stock one with 10k invested . I am not oversimplifying or exaggerating when I posted the info on evos .

How long have you been modding them or been in the evo scene?

Who cares about a link? You're so bent on proving your point it's ridiculious. The fact that it can be done doesn't necessarily mean it will be. I can post links of people that have run 10's or even 9's with Eaton Cobra, but that doesn't mean it's typical, and generally the people that do are targeting that goal. First of all lets not get it twisted a EVO isn't the greatiest performance car to grace this planet.(neither is a GT500) Second I'm no EVO expert, but I know very much what they are and have a pretty good idea what they can do when modded correctly. If someone says I want to buy a stock EVO VIII/IX and beat a stock 13/14 GT500 in a roll while only spending $10K in mods then I'm sure it's very possibly much the same way I was talking about targeting a goal with the Cobra. But if someones with a EVO don't have beating a 662 BHP GT500 in a roll on as a priority, and don't mod solely on beating fast car in it range as a goal, and says I'd like to spend some of my $10K for a nice Exedy TD clutch, a titanium exhaust, some Volks, and KW C/O's etc, etc then yeah these things cost quit a bit more than trying to budget with cheaper shit so that with take away from greatly from the money you spend to throw at the power mods to make your car accelerate throw the air quicker. But don't confuse a EVO for being a higher-end car than a $60K GT500 because that it is not.

I'm sure a new GT500 with $10 in mods can eat a ZR1 alive in a roll if the person with the car set that as his goal, but he might get eaten alive if he's just modding his car without the goal to beat a ZR1 in a roll and he spends his money on suspension mods, cosmetics, etc with maybe just a few power mods.
 
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Who cares about a link? You're so bent on proving your point it's ridiculious. The fact that it can be done doesn't necessarily mean it will be. I can post links of people that have run 10's or even 9's with Eaton Cobra, but that doesn't mean it's typical, and generally the people that do are targeting that goal. First of all lets not get it twisted a EVO isn't the greatiest performance car to grace this planet.(neither is a GT500) Second I'm no EVO expert, but I know very much what they are and have a pretty good idea what they can do when modded correctly. If someone says I want to buy a stock EVO VIII/IX and beat a stock 13/14 GT500 in a roll while only spending $10K in mods then I'm sure it's very possibly much the same way I was talking about targeting a goal with the Cobra. But if someones with a EVO don't have beating a 662 BHP GT500 in a roll on as a priority, and don't mod solely on beating fast car in it range as a goal, and says I'd like to spend some of my $10K for a nice Exedy TD clutch, a titanium exhaust, some Volks, and KW C/O's etc, etc then yeah these things cost quit a bit more than trying to budget with cheaper shit so that with take away from greatly from the money you spend to throw at the power mods to make your car accelerate throw the air quicker. But don't confuse a EVO for being a higher-end car than a $60K GT500 because that it is not.

I'm sure a new GT500 with $10 in mods can eat a ZR1 alive in a roll if the person with the car set that as his goal, but he might get eaten alive if he's just modding his car without the goal to beat a ZR1 in a roll and he spends his money on suspension mods, cosmetics, etc with maybe just a few power mods.

Lol, OK man, this convo has ran its course , you are all over the place
 

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Lol, OK man, this convo has ran its course , you are all over the place

The point is you have absolutely no clue where or how he spend his money in mods other than some 2 step turbo. Sounds to me like he just told the OP that he spent around $10K in upgrades for his car. You immediately assume that just because an old EVO has $10K in mods that it's garenteed a win over a new GT500 that is stock forum is a pretty damn fast car in a highway pull. I mean WTF? What if a stock new GTR owner said that he beat a Terminator with $10K in mods from a roll would you call BS? I'm sure $10K in mods on a Terminator will have no problem beating a stock GTR in a roll if it's the right mods, but if he's not modding in the right area's and is modding to make his car a handler, or buying high-end wheels and things like that then no.

This is what the OP said:
"Anyways, he had like 10K in upgrades with a two step turbo."
 

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The point is you have absolutely no clue where or how he spend his money in mods other than some 2 step turbo. Sounds to me like he just told the OP that he spent around $10K in upgrades for his car. You immediately assume that just because an old EVO has $10K in mods that it's garenteed a win over a new GT500 that is stock forum is a pretty damn fast car in a highway pull. I mean WTF? What if a stock new GTR owner said that he beat a Terminator with $10K in mods from a roll would you call BS? I'm sure $10K in mods on a Terminator will have no problem beating a stock GTR in a roll if it's the right mods, but if he's not modding in the right area's and is modding to make his car a handler, or buying high-end wheels and things like that then no.

This is what the OP said:
"Anyways, he had like 10K in upgrades with a two step turbo."

Lol, your reading comprehension has failed you. Go back are reread my first reply to your post. I clearly said 10k in go fast mods! I have said it the entire thread.
 

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I personally know more than a few EVO's that would have no problem with a GT500, and even paying for a shop build one is about $12k into a 905 AWHP EVO 9 that will slap around a stock GT500. Someone is forgetting how much lighter an EVO 8 or 9 is, and just how long the 4G63 has been making easy big power. In some ways the 4G63 is like the small block Chevy of the import world, and it is easy to build an EVO 8, 9, or 10 to beat a GT500 with $10k in mods.

What I will never understand is why some car enthusiasts who barely know about their own car are always so quick to act like experts on a car they know nothing about?

A friend recently put up his 780 awhp Evo 8 for $20k TOTAL, and it would have no problem with a stock GT500.
 
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I personally know more than a few EVO's that would have no problem with a GT500, and even paying for a shop build one is about $12k into a 905 AWHP EVO 9 that will slap around a stock GT500. Someone is forgetting how much lighter an EVO 8 or 9 is, and just how long the 4G63 has been making easy big power. In some ways the 4G63 is like the small block Chevy of the import world, and it is easy to build an EVO 8, 9, or 10 to beat a GT500 with $10k in mods.

What I will never understand is why some car enthusiasts who barely know about their own car are always so quick to act like experts on a car they know nothing about?

A friend recently put up his 780 awhp Evo 8 for $20k TOTAL, and it would have no problem with a stock GT500.

Sick03vert and wildman seem to fall into that category ..I think Jroc just typed before actually reading the posts so I wouldn't put him in that same category
 
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Sick03vert and wildman seem to fall into that category ..I think Jroc just typed before actually reading the posts so I wouldn't put him in that same category

JRoc is typically on point...so I will chalk this up to a little misunderstanding.
 

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I personally know more than a few EVO's that would have no problem with a GT500, and even paying for a shop build one is about $12k into a 905 AWHP EVO 9 that will slap around a stock GT500. Someone is forgetting how much lighter an EVO 8 or 9 is, and just how long the 4G63 has been making easy big power. In some ways the 4G63 is like the small block Chevy of the import world, and it is easy to build an EVO 8, 9, or 10 to beat a GT500 with $10k in mods.

What I will never understand is why some car enthusiasts who barely know about their own car are always so quick to act like experts on a car they know nothing about?

A friend recently put up his 780 awhp Evo 8 for $20k TOTAL, and it would have no problem with a stock GT500.

I can put a rocket on a dog turn and it is still a dog turd.
In the end the Evo has economy car roots and 99% of people would take the Shelby over it.
I had a friend with one when I lived in Maryland in 2006, it was a cheaply built garbage can type of car with typical Mitsubishi problems.
I have no dog in this fight and could not care less what is faster and who spent what.

Example: http://frederick.craigslist.org/cto/4183704023.html

Clean high HP Evo, cheap......excites me as much as a Nissan Sentra.
 
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I can put a rocket on a dog turn and it is still a dog turd.
In the end the Evo has economy car roots and 99% of people would take the Shelby over it.
I had a friend with one when I lived in Maryland in 2006, it was a cheaply built garbage can type of car with typical Mitsubishi problems.
I have no dog in this fight and could not care less what is faster and who spent what.

Example: 2005 Lancer Evo 700+ wheel hp 52,000 miles

Clean high HP Evo, cheap......excites me as much as a Nissan Sentra.

lol says the guy that drives the highest-trim available American rental car and whats to talk about the evo's roots :bash: 99% of ppl would not take a shelby over it and your comments are beyond ignorant .
 

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There is so much bullshit flying around in here about evo's it's insane. Get out of here. This is getting to be to 5.0 level.
 

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