Maybe this. Being a FIPK I'm sure its a little more than just a filter, but this is a $170 mod on a Mustang Cobra.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/pa...nd-n-generation-ii-fipk-98-02-ls1-f-body.html
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Maybe this. Being a FIPK I'm sure its a little more than just a filter, but this is a $170 mod on a Mustang Cobra.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/pa...nd-n-generation-ii-fipk-98-02-ls1-f-body.html
Did you install them yourself? Not everyone is going to score cheap deals like yourself. My buddy spent over 500 bucks on his Borla catback for his SS alone. Have you changed your spark plugs yet? Its a bitch isn't it. I dont even drive a cobra and i know they are the biggest bang for the buck out there right now. This argument can go on forever and you ls1 guys will argue until your green. AGAIN SOMEONE SHOW ME A CAR THAT CAN HAD FOR UNDER 20G'S WITH A STOCK FORGED ROTATING ASSEMBLY THAT PUMPS OUT 450RWHP WITH BOLTON'S?
As for the person saying the cobra is a bonified GT, I guess one can say the same about the c5 vette.... Vette has the same drive train as the fbodys. The cobra has the same body style as the GT.
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My first pulley (3") cost me $75,air filter $40. no tune or tuner needed for 3" pulley.2 weld in flowmasters $115 Total $230. Installing and waxing my first cammed camaro in 30min. priceless :burn: :coolman:
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Thank you finally, some one has enlighten me.:beer:
I love how the SS at 30 large gets brought up but the z28 at 23k and is just as fast as the ss is completly left out.
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Umm wut? The c5 is a completely different chasis (y body). Is the cobra not built on the same chasis as the gt?
Thats the only thing they have in common. Doesn't the c5 share the same drivetrain as the fbody?:shrug: Thats my point they both share similar traits as their brother, but to say one is glorified same is a bit of a stretch. Even a better comparison would be the cadillac XLR. Is it the same as the vette? It uses the same chassis as the vette. I know because I worked for cadillac for 5years.
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I didn't say I agree with the statement that cobras are glorified gts but your comparison was assinine. The vette shares the ls1 and t56 but nothing else. The ls1 isn't even the same (there are several differences though minor).
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Umm, no thats not what they say.
Put on a track, 0-100-0, skidpad, high speed cornering, an Fbody waxes the same year GT year for year.
A 2002 SS would annihilate the same year GT.
It takes atleast the 03 Cobra to put down similar results.
Better cars? How so?
Build quality isn't better, reliability isn't better, longevity isn't better. Termi's can have heatsoak issues. The interiors are cheap.
This is your opinion, not fact.
Ok a C5 ZO6 is nothing but a glorified base model C5 Vette. I mean why go after the ZO6 when you can spend a lot of money on a lot of mods to bring the base C5 up to the C5 ZO6's performance levels in all area's which purtain to a vehicles performance? :shrug:
I've never had any "heatsoak" issues nor do i know anyone that has and i drive my car all summer long in over 100 degree weather.
I believe he is talking about people with the Eatons and no extra cooling mods, of course your twin screw isn't going to have heatsoaking issues.
Prove it. Show me proof that they will out corner and out skidpad a Mustang GT. BTW even though I don't think they do(a LE1 or a firehawk maybe but I've never been in one of those) they should as their MSRP is quite abit more than a GT's. I've driven several GT's and several Fbodies including a 2000 WS6, and I've known a few people with LS1 WS6's, and even more with Z28's. I have an idea of how the two cars handle. I have never been fond of a Fbodies handling, or its ride, or its seating position. I do like how they launch, and even though I don't like their seating position they do make you feel like a pimp all layed back sitting low with the tall/long dash and hood.
Kind of like a Corvette is just a better car than a Mustang Cobra. Its factory performance is better in most all area's. Also its build quality is better, and one thing I think Modular motors are better at than LS motor is their stock reliabilty is hard to beat, and I've known people with over 230K on their Mustangs with the original factory motor. I've never known anyone with a Fbody even approaching that. A Terminator is just more of a car. IMO the refinement is better and when modded it is a lot better. Have you ever driven or been in one? Cami's and Trans Ami's have valvetrain problems. The Mustang Cobra's cheap interior has much better seats and a much better steeringwheel than a Fbody. Fbodies do have much better shifter locations IMO.
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Cooling mods are good, but overrated unless your a road racer or something. The best cooling mods are the built bottomend with more piston clearance, and the January 05 cylinderhead mods.
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My body has 128K now, no squeaks or noises of any kind anywhere. Still a very solid car. I will admit even though I love my interior styling it looks like its made out of shoe plastic!
Sorry i meant to specify, I was talking about my eaton and at 15lb's.
This whole thread makes me laugh, im gonna try to explain a few reasons why the 03/04 Cobras are way better then an LS1 Camaro.
First off stock for stock everyone knows the Cobra takes the win, thats a given.
Ok now lets get into modding, give each car basic bolt ons (cobra gets I/E/pulley/tune, camaro gets I/E/100shot/tune) and I still see the cobra taking the win (also posted earlier was a video that proves it). Now lets get on to camming the Camaro, who ever says that putting a cam on a camaro is as easy as swapping a pulley on a Cobra is on crack. Book time to swap a cam on a LS1 is 15.4 hours, now lets say you don't have a lot of car knowledge or don't have access to tools or a lift to do the work, your going to be paying out the ass for a decent shop to do the labor (at our shop it would cost $1232 in labor alone).
Ok, now I do agree that both cars build quality are complete crap and the interiors each have their own rattles and annoying habbits. Now lets get on to doing maintenance on each car, lets say a spark plug change, cobra has the advantage there by over an hour time difference in changing the plugs.
Now on to the complete shit rear ends on the Camaros, you can forget about just bolting up a set of slicks and going to the track because everyone knows that you will break, and it is a lot more expensive to swap a 12bolt/9inch rather then just putting an IRS brace on a cobra.
In the end it really just comes down to what kind of car you really like, the diehard chevy guys will always own chevys and the diehard ford guys will always own fords. I would be considered neutral since I own an import, and after doing quite a bit of research on both vehicles I can tell you that my outside view shows that the cobra is a much better car. I'm not saying that the cobras don't have problems, we all know that they can't do high speed pulls with a pullied only cobra without cracking a ringland on a piston, also the IRS that was put on them was poorly designed. Anyway that was quite a long ramble on my part, sorry I just took a hyrdo (have a root dying on one of my back teeth) and if anything I said doesn't make sense please let me know lol.
First off stock for stock everyone knows the Cobra takes the win, thats a given.
Ok now lets get into modding, give each car basic bolt ons (cobra gets I/E/pulley/tune, camaro gets I/E/100shot/tune) and I still see the cobra taking the win (also posted earlier was a video that proves it). Now lets get on to camming the Camaro, who ever says that putting a cam on a camaro is as easy as swapping a pulley on a Cobra is on crack. Book time to swap a cam on a LS1 is 15.4 hours, now lets say you don't have a lot of car knowledge or don't have access to tools or a lift to do the work, your going to be paying out the ass for a decent shop to do the labor (at our shop it would cost $1232 in labor alone).
Ok, now I do agree that both cars build quality are complete crap and the interiors each have their own rattles and annoying habbits. Now lets get on to doing maintenance on each car, lets say a spark plug change, cobra has the advantage there by over an hour time difference in changing the plugs.
Now on to the complete shit rear ends on the Camaros, you can forget about just bolting up a set of slicks and going to the track because everyone knows that you will break, and it is a lot more expensive to swap a 12bolt/9inch rather then just putting an IRS brace on a cobra.
In the end it really just comes down to what kind of car you really like, the diehard chevy guys will always own chevys and the diehard ford guys will always own fords. I would be considered neutral since I own an import, and after doing quite a bit of research on both vehicles I can tell you that my outside view shows that the cobra is a much better car. I'm not saying that the cobras don't have problems, we all know that they can't do high speed pulls with a pullied only cobra without cracking a ringland on a piston, also the IRS that was put on them was poorly designed. Anyway that was quite a long ramble on my part, sorry I just took a hyrdo (have a root dying on one of my back teeth) and if anything I said doesn't make sense please let me know lol.
cobra>catfish..
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My interior.
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My body has 128K now, no squeaks or noises of any kind anywhere. Still a very solid car. I will admit even though I love my interior styling it looks like its made out of shoe plastic!
Thats funny, my friend has a 95 with about 100,000 miles on it and everytime I go over a bump there are about a million things in the interior that start to rattle, iono maybe he just got a shitty one out of the batch that were made that year.
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