What forum did you moderate? I've enjoyed this forum more than any other I've been on.
I used to roadrace motorcycles, it was all related to that. Nice list, BTW.
What forum did you moderate? I've enjoyed this forum more than any other I've been on.
My neighbor told me he paid 93k otd for his
People tell about as much truth about their car deals as their gas mileage.
Decide if you want to believe me-
$5000 ADM
Which, apparently makes me stupid, an idiot, bad negotiator, ruining the future of mankind for everyone else or whatever stuff I read in every. damn. thread. on these cars. My goodness, it is so obnoxious. Editor Turner is out there making great content and I barely want to come here and read even for free due to all the BS in between.
Except, I asked the dealer what they could move on, and traded my 2015 F250 for the same price I paid for it 18mos ago, or, about $5000 over market.
If you want the car, don't want to pay ADM but the sales manager has to show the GM something because other dealers keep offering to buy it, then work the other parts of the deal. Or, come complain on forums about people that know how to negotiate a deal and are getting their cars early, make so much money this little passion purchase is OK etc etc
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Heh, I'm sure it'll make me a popular man. I used to moderate/part own a forum, I know how this goes.
The SVT Performance team is clearly investing in the site, I think it's awesome they have Steve Turner in here writing. IMO, the mods should consider how to improve the signal to noise or sorta new guys/lurkers like me aren't going to hang around.
5 or 10k to many people is nothing.
If im buying a car for a family member and they said these are the 3 cars I'd like, BMW M4 a GT350 or a Cadillac Escalade paying 20k over sticker for the GT350 is a bargain still.
Never understood why anyone cares what others pay.
5 or 10k to many people is nothing.
If im buying a car for a family member and they said these are the 3 cars I'd like, BMW M4 a GT350 or a Cadillac Escalade paying 20k over sticker for the GT350 is a bargain still.
Never understood why anyone cares what others pay.
we care cuz this car at msrp is on the edge of some people's budgets. so all these loaded dudes paying 75k for this car ruins it for its intended market.
Were you part of the research group to determine its intended market?we care cuz this car at msrp is on the edge of some people's budgets. so all these loaded dudes paying 75k for this car ruins it for its intended market.
we care cuz this car at msrp is on the edge of some people's budgets. so all these loaded dudes paying 75k for this car ruins it for its intended market.
MSRP is just a suggestion. The real price is whatever sellers and buyers agree to mutually. Many cars go for less than MSRP, some go for more. Ford has built one of the few that are more than the sum of their parts and demand is very high driving average selling price above MSRP.
If you are not able to buy the things you want, this is America, change how you're spending the money you have or go make more money. Don't whine about those that have prioritzed getting the money to buy the car.
What would you say the point of you posting in the GT350 section is?
Is demand really that high though? I see many of these cars sitting and sitting for months with adm. I've been buying sports cars for a while, and Ford dealers seem to be overly ridiculous with their markups. Not so much what they charge but their unwillingness to deal even when they see the car isn't bringing what they ask. For instance, remember all the dealers sitting on 2013 GT500's for months or even years after 14's hit. Having the money isn't the problem all the time. I was in the market for a 350 but couldn't find any dealers that had more sense than a door knob. Therefore I purchased a Hellcat, which stickers for more, but I got at a fair price. It wasn't about the money. I just can't see paying over msrp for anything. It's a principle thing to me. More exclusive cars, I can see, but you guys are jizzing yourself for a Mustang that just so happens to rev over 8k and has to borrow its handling foundation from General Motors. Oh yeah, it has a flat plane crank. I guess that's worth it for some of you to lose your ass?