it's a good idea if you want to keep everything fresh. The PCV system is clogged with tons of shit and the valves can get tons of build it. It's a good idea to keep up on the plugs. Also a VERY good idea to run a catch can system for both sides of the motor. They can get pretty saturated every 20-30k miles. Just the nature of the beast with a DI motor.Every 15k on a stock one? That's insane.
I don't think the water pump is a issue in the Ecoboost motors. It's the timing chain that was blowing up motors. Cam phasers were out of spec.Since I like you guys, I'll give you a massive heads up. The 3.5 V6's in Fords, especially the earlier models like the 2013 ish have an internal water pump driven by a timing chain. They like to let go right at 100k, and dump coolant in the oil, and thereby decimating everything in it's path.
So if you don't proactively replace it, you will be replacing the motor. Thanks to that wonderful design, I made some really good money when I was a Ford Service writer. If you don't heed my advice, just be aware you'll be putting a motor in the truck sooner than later.
EB plugs with 72k ....have you checked them physically? The f150s burn through them FAST. Car might run OK but plugs will look like dog shit. MPGs will suffer too.I'm the same as bigmoose, 72K orig. plugs.
Look for paint issues on the leading edge of the hood, and ours lost a seal on the transaxle needing a rebuild.
I don't think the water pump is a issue in the Ecoboost motors. It's the timing chain that was blowing up motors. Cam phasers were out of spec.
It also tows this giant parachute like its not even there. My girlfriends 06 F150 has a hell of a time with it lol. Only time I know it's there is when I let off the gas and it feels like the brakes are on from the drag. Got 11.3 MPG doing 70 last weekend.View attachment 1494205
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940#. It's not so much the weight has the wind drag. Or F-150 has a hard time pulling it down the highway at 70 miles an hour and is always downshifting from the drag whereas the Explorer don't even notice it's there. Never downshifts or runs in a lower gear. Quite impressive for towing to be honestWhat does that trailer weigh?
Depending on her trim and model F150, they tow between 2,200 and 9,000lbs. The Explorers all tow 5,000LBS, so, that could explain it.
it's a good idea if you want to keep everything fresh. The PCV system is clogged with tons of shit and the valves can get tons of build it. It's a good idea to keep up on the plugs. Also a VERY good idea to run a catch can system for both sides of the motor. They can get pretty saturated every 20-30k miles. Just the nature of the beast with a DI motor.
These cars are great ford mods! Our basic hurricane bundle we provide picks up 70hp and 90tq on 93 octane and definitely turns these cars into sleepers!Awesome suvs; pros and cons? Good for mods?
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yes the catch can is really needed. Have you seen the shit that collects in the catch can of a EB? it's friggin ridiculous. The valves get RUINED on these motors at 100k. I'm not just making this shit up. Also, the plugs get FOULED at 20k. It has been proven time and time again. Go over to the f150 EB forums, you will learn a ton. =)Do you have any real world proof to back this up? I have a 3.5 ecoboost F150 and go back and forth on the need for a catch can. I get that it won't hurt anything but is it really needed? Where's all the motors with tons of carbon build up. Seems like they're mostly pushed by the people that sell them.
I also think changing plugs that frequent is overkill... I plan to do my oil at about 50% life which equals about 5K miles. To me this is the only thing that's worth going overboard on and only because of the well documented timing chain issues.
That's my plan. A 2019 or 2020 Edge ST! It's going to be an awesome all purpose vehicle IMO. And zero issues with my '16 Edge Sport.We have a 14 with 33K on it. We have only had a couple of problems with it (battery was replaced, not in park light came on, and an airbag sensor went out. We still need the air bags recall and exhaust odor TBS done. Ours is completely stock as its the wife's dd. The low end power is great and is a blast to drive.
If you dont need the 3rd row you might want to look at the Edge ST when it comes out. Our 2010 edge was problem free.
Since I like you guys, I'll give you a massive heads up. The 3.5 V6's in Fords, especially the earlier models like the 2013 ish have an internal water pump driven by a timing chain. They like to let go right at 100k, and dump coolant in the oil, and thereby decimating everything in it's path.
So if you don't proactively replace it, you will be replacing the motor. Thanks to that wonderful design, I made some really good money when I was a Ford Service writer. If you don't heed my advice, just be aware you'll be putting a motor in the truck sooner than later.
Give me a link Tanner. I have a new EB F-150 on the way.yes the catch can is really needed. Have you seen the shit that collects in the catch can of a EB? it's friggin ridiculous. The valves get RUINED on these motors at 100k. I'm not just making this shit up. Also, the plugs get FOULED at 20k. It has been proven time and time again. Go over to the f150 EB forums, you will learn a ton. =)
We have a 2013 Limited with the N/A 3.5L. I've read Ford changed the water pump design from a single row of teeth design to double row of teeth design. I checked RockAuto and the MotorCraft waterpump for a 2011 N/A 3.5L is single row of teeth while the MotorCraft waterpump for a 2013 N/A 3.5L has double row of teeth. The part #s are different, too.
In your experience, is this something to watch out for across all years anyway or are only Explorers with the single row of teeth on the waterpump at risk?
Thread for reference:
Water pump failure leads to dead engine
Give me a link Tanner. I have a new EB F-150 on the way.