My neighbor, who worked at Roush, told me that Paul's HP has done quite a bit of work for Ford.
Yes he has gotten on his hands on a lot of cars early and has built quite a few SEMA cars for Ford.
My neighbor, who worked at Roush, told me that Paul's HP has done quite a bit of work for Ford.
Awesome write up and work Tob!
Novice question: Why would you close off that port on the airbox? as open as the rest of it is I'd think it wouldn't matter. Also, wouldn't you want as many ways in as possible for that beast to get access to air to draw?
Aside from the information I've been able to provide, I still think your question is entirely valid. Again, here is the part number shown on the box for the fuel pump
So clearly, FRPP lists the part # as M-9H307-MSVTA] (interesting to note that the box was relabeled but I can't make out the original number on the sticker underneath the new one). Whipple's "Pull Sheet" lists the pump as being a modified dual fuel pump and being sourced from Pauls HP.
PaulsHP.com doesn't have a very large selection of GT500 parts to offer at their website and I see nothing there regarding any fuel pump offerings either. https://www.paulshp.com/cgi-bin/webstorecgi/webstore.cgi?page=GT500&type=categories
I can't comment on any business relationship that PaulsHP may have with FRPP, but it is entirely plausible especially given the geographic closeness of the two with PaulsHP in Jackson, MI and FRPP in Livonia, MI.
There was mention in the MM&FF article about the pumps (from here).
I think it was one of Lethal's guys (along with a few others) that have referenced the pumps themselves as "Walbro GSS342 (return style) pumps inside a stock GT500 pump assembly".
The pump contained in the kit has yet to show up as an individual part in FRPP's online catalog, even within the new parts listing pages. That doesn't preclude the fact that it still might be available through them, necessarily. It may be listed soon - or maybe not (?). That's why I found it interesting that the gentleman selling them on eBay is listing the FRPP part number. Maybe we should ask Tousley if the FRPP part number shows it as being available as an individual part number (it must be, right?) along with their price.
Now to the core portion of your question - is the pump just a 2010 pump assembly? Ford parts and service online catalog has a page dedicated to the 2010 GT500 fuel supply system, here, as a "fuel pump and sender assembly", down at the bottom. They list it for $521.45, a price that most here won't ever pay;-). The part number, 9H307 (PFS-503) is definitely the 2010 pump assembly as used by 2010 vehicles.
If you change your parts query and search for a 2009 GT500 pump you see it listed as 9H307 (PFS-362). If I have my modern day parts numbering correct, the 9H307 is just Ford's designation as a part being fuel pump or system related, with either (PFS-503) or (PFS-362) further delineating the assembly by vehicle and applicable year(s).
I don't see Ford offering the assembly without the pumps. I assume FRPP has contracted the work (Hence, PaulsHP) to add the larger Walbro pumps and ship them directly to Whipple or to FRPP for boxing and shipment to Whipple in California.
In conclusion, remember that the 2010 pump housing is definitely different that the '07-'09 unit. While much of the two are similar, it is the 2010 housing that allows the larger pumps to fit (go back a few pages and refer to the photo comparison of the two different housing styles). Dustin, it would help if you could comment here!:-D
Note - you may have noticed what looked like another fuel pump assembly within the tank when you looked at Ford Parts' diagrams, over on the passenger side of the tank. I believe that is just the pickup for that side that is tied into the driver side pumps via the cross over tube (that I had to disconnect/reconnect during the swap). It is not the same as the pumps we are talking about here.
Tob
Beyond that, I'm glad to hear that this thread helped you to make a decision. Makes it all worthwhile to me. Good luck with your installation!
Tob
well i was able to get alittle information today. Pauls HP, does infact do the modifing of the M-9H307-MSVTA that comes in the FRPP whipple kit. the stock dual pumps are 255's, the modified dual pumps are 310.
Pauls hp will modify the pumps for you at. Cost of 500 bucks. But can't sell you a complete new setup. I'm guessing because ford racing won't let them.
So I'm wondering how these M-9H307-MSVTA pumps got out of the Pauls HP/FRPP/Whipple system and onto eBay
FORD RACING SVT MUSTANG DUAL FUEL PUMP M-9H307-MSVTA: eBay Motors (item 370365842682 end time Nov-11-10 12:31:08 PST)
I suppose the seller could have conracted with PaulsHP direct and got them built, but I'd think the price would be double what he's asking or more; I suppose the seller could have modified them himself :uh oh:
I'll ask the seller a couple of questions and see what he comes back with, I'll let you all know what he says.
BTW, I purchased a stage 2 Whipple 2.9 yesterday from Lethal :banana:
So I'm wondering how these M-9H307-MSVTA pumps got out of the Pauls HP/FRPP/Whipple system and onto eBay
FORD RACING SVT MUSTANG DUAL FUEL PUMP M-9H307-MSVTA: eBay Motors (item 370365842682 end time Nov-11-10 12:31:08 PST)
I talked to Jeff at Paul's High Performance today, he said there's no need to purchase a '10-'11 fuel pump, the '07-'09 housing can be fitted with the Walbro GSS342 pumps, the cost is $449 plus return shipping.
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