Looks Like Dodge/SRT Is At It Again
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And people would buy it....
If we are talking z06. Then 10+ per day... Hell I see more mclarens than hellcats. Dont really care about the lesser models, i see more base mustangs and camaros than I do mopars, also the mopars always seem to be on insane liquidation. But whatever, yea they are killing it in the eyes of people who like straight line stuff. Thats fair, but they are certainly not killing it in the all out car world
oh ya, the car that they advertise on billboards with 20k off sticker and frequently traded in with a handful of miles on em.
Thats just chevys game. Advertise big rebates so people feel good, they sell cars like crazy because of that, hence why corvettes are common as civics. They are killing it. Especially with their platform that is pretty much the ultimate bang for buck in any performance category you want.
Im sure hellcats are far more common in big city/large highway areas. Which makes sense.
No. Sergio announced that the next generation Challenger/Charger will ride on a revamped version of the current car. The next gen will not be an Alfa. The next gen is suspected to be using more AHSS, aluminum and composites. It will likely lose 300lbs. and remain a large car (L platform).
We have hellcats absolutely everywhere out here. On any given day if I drive 30 min to the other side of the city, I bet I will see 3 of them. Probably 10-15 on nice weekend days.
That makes sense. "If it's not broke, don't fix it."
I see 5-10 hellcats a day, it all depends on location.
'How many different models are they going to have?'
You mean like Roush stage 1 , 2 , 3, Jackhammer, Saleen, Steeda, Shelby American (Shelby GTs), Hertz cars.
List goes on and on and on.
its literally the same thing, but the manufacturer is cutting down on the aftermarket doing it. Smart move in my opinion.
And again, the hate is strong because the old Blue Oval didnt think of it first.
Meanwhile Ford's 'Top Dog' GT350 literally grenades itself by consuming quarts and quarts of oil in between oil changes.
lulz.
'How many different models are they going to have?'
You mean like Roush stage 1 , 2 , 3, Jackhammer, Saleen, Steeda, Shelby American (Shelby GTs), Hertz cars.
List goes on and on and on.
its literally the same thing, but the manufacturer is cutting down on the aftermarket doing it. Smart move in my opinion.
And again, the hate is strong because the old Blue Oval didnt think of it first.
Meanwhile Ford's 'Top Dog' GT350 literally grenades itself by consuming quarts and quarts of oil in between oil changes.
lulz.
Dodge has created a frenzy. Mopar fans are excited, and everyone else is talking about the new lineup. The more power Dodge brings to the table, the more people take notice.
The Challenger platform has not had to change. The old heavy design is cost effective in regard to tooling and build costs. There is a dedicated fan base that will continue to buy the cars, and new buyers enter the market every day.
Ford is trying to rebrand itself, and Dodge is building on a tried and true foundation.
Now, if we could have the Viper back I would be happy.
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The Challenger platform has not had to change. The old heavy design is cost effective in regard to tooling and build costs. There is a dedicated fan base that will continue to buy the cars, and new buyers enter the market every day.
Ford is trying to rebrand itself, and Dodge is building on a tried and true foundation.
Now, if we could have the Viper back I would be happy.
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Its why I stated "my perspective" and added that I understand that in areas with more highways you'll see more. However some of you guys refuse to aknowledge that the opposite exists outside of your own world.
Roush, shelby american, etc are aftermarket so not sure what the point is there, or why anyone would care how many models there are whether it be dodge/ford/chevy
In my opinion Ford screwed itself by announcing the GT500 before they were ready to market the car. They should be following up the GT500 announcement with updates, and sneak peek commercials. Ford dropped the ball in marketing with the GT500. They created an industry buzz, and allowed the excitement to die. A few teaser commercials would benefit Ford.
The lack of advertisement from Ford is due to arrogance and ignorance, or the lack of a functional prototype. I personally believe we have only seen a CGI ad due to all of the above.
Chevrolet doesn't really place a ton of hype behind their cars. They put the cars on the sales floor, and then put emphasis on advertising.
When is the last time you saw a Mustang commercial?
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The lack of advertisement from Ford is due to arrogance and ignorance, or the lack of a functional prototype. I personally believe we have only seen a CGI ad due to all of the above.
Chevrolet doesn't really place a ton of hype behind their cars. They put the cars on the sales floor, and then put emphasis on advertising.
When is the last time you saw a Mustang commercial?
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Wow, is the a DNC rally? Dodge is giving customers what they want, simple strategy. As long as they sell Hellcats and Demons, they will keep building them. They most likely have already paid off the R&D of the Hellcat and all of this is just pure icing. However, the Demon costs are brand new and they have now gone a long ways to paying off the R&D of the Demon.
Those are all aftermarket tuners. Literally zero of the ones you listed are part of fords mustang model line up.
Me personally i think the hellcat is cool but this whole idea of just making of different "versions" of the hellcat is getting old quickly. Hellcat, demon, widebody hellcat, redeye hellcat... ok dodge we get it.
This platform is already getting long in the tooth and eventually people will get over it. I think dodge FCA has most aging lineup out of all the major manufacturers. They will be lucky to not be spun off or sold again in the next 18mos.
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They have to be making a lot of money off of the Hellcat though. The platform the car is on is from Mercedes, right? I don't know how much it cost them to use it but I would guess not as much as it would have cost them to work up a new platform from "scratch."
Yeah guess the whole last two lines of my post sailed right over your head huh?
Here, let me highlight it for you
There we go, now that we've got that explained (again)
Your next excuse?
Its a dated platform?
You mean....the 15 years Ford used the Fox platform? The 10 years in the SN95 platform? The 10 Years in the S197 platform?
Dodge is selling the shit out of cars. If it aint broke dont fix it.
NEEEEEEEEEXT
Dodge needs to put that powertrain in every vehicle they manufacture. Because they can, and because it would sell. End of story. 'No one will buy the Trackhawk / Demon!'
Yet every one's sold.
Dodge is doing what Ford is 'claiming to do', listening to the customer. Pushing boundaries. On every single avenue.
customers were asking for a pinkeye edition challenger? news to me
making higher part number counts to existing product increases cost as you lower the volume for each model (aka cannibalizing sales).
If they were smart they would have only 4 challenger models. base v6, base v8 R/T, SRT 6.4 and hellcat.. There is literally no reason to make 50 different super special editions that are 95% the same.
Prove to me that they are getting new sales with each submodel and i rest my case. If im in the market for a $70,000 muscle car either i want a hellcat or i dont. Making a "fisheye" version isnt going to net new customers.
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