I have experienced a stall that has put me in a potentially dangerous situation
My Cobra Stalls and I will hold Ford Liable
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One of the downsides of Traction Control. It can bite you big time at the most inopportune time.
I'm greatfull it has not happened to my wife while driving to work, it's not all that easy to stop this thing w/out the power brakes and power steering. Hopefully Ford will step up and issue a TSB on this so that it can be resolved during routine work.
The traction control is extremely dangerous but the stall that always comes up in these forums is a whole different animal.
Each of the times my car has stalled is was just after warm up cruisin out of my neighborhood. As I slowed down to make the quick right then left to get around the roundabout it died and I had to wrestle it around the roundabout to avoid hitting the parked cars on the street. Not too fun.
:cuss:
To be blunt, driving on a public highway puts your life at risk. Life implies risk.
I have had my car stall on me a few times. When it was 100% stock it never stalled on me. After a few miles I pulled my intake silencer and replaced the air filter w/a drop-in K&N. Shortly thereafter my car would stall every now and then. I pulled the negative battery cable, to reset the PCM, and I believe it stalled a couple of times after that. I then added a magnaflow exhaust and promptly reset the PCM again. That was at, believe it or not, 1320 miles, when I installed my exhaust
, sorry...Anyway, my car hasn't stalled since then and I have 3200+ miles on her now.I'm wondering if there's a correlation between mods, even simple one's like pulling the intake silencer, and the "stall". I don't believe anyone has complained about stalling with a 100% stock factory delivered Cobra. Could it be that the computer is just taking a while to adjust to the mods? Or maybe one's driving technique is aggrivating the condition during the computer adaptation? I don't know.
I do know that mine hasn't stalled since I had 1320 miles on my car. And that was almost 2000 miles ago.
Anyone?
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blown03cobra
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my only stall problem was after my TB install just for your info.
I had the stall before any mods at all, and it has continued, seemingly unaffected by my mods. Stall is most frequent during warm-up cycle just before temp reaches normal operating level.
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I dont know if you have done so, but do a search for idle problems and resetting ECU by the dealer or different program that is available. Let me know what you find buddy, let me know if I can help you out. I took my to the dealer and he said there was no program available but that it would have to be taken a look at by a technician which would take about 2 days.... I know i get a free loaner but still,,,,, its the fact of the matter that counts.
Re: Re: My Cobra Stalls and I will hold Ford Liable
At the risk of getting flamed, maybe that's why Ford looks so dimly at mods. Cars these days are a carefully-engineered compromise between power, tractability, emissions, fuel economy and reliability. Replacing a few parts may improve power to the detriment of other elements of performance. I'm not saying that Ford (or dealers) are always fair and reasonable, but your quote recognizes that the stalling problems started with the mods. Threatening to sue Ford will get us nowhere if these are the facts.
Years ago my father counseled me on building up a hot rod. I wanted to bolt on a manifold and 4-barrel carb. He told me that the minute I started upping power, I needed to think about the rest of the drive train, the brakes, the tires, steering, suspension, etc. He taught me to take a "systems" view.
Originally posted by 03DOHC
To be blunt, driving on a public highway puts your life at risk. Life implies risk.
I have had my car stall on me a few times. When it was 100% stock it never stalled on me. After a few miles I pulled my intake silencer and replaced the air filter w/a drop-in K&N. Shortly thereafter my car would stall every now and then. I pulled the negative battery cable, to reset the PCM, and I believe it stalled a couple of times after that. I then added a magnaflow exhaust and promptly reset the PCM again. That was at, believe it or not, 1320 miles, when I installed my exhaust
I'm wondering if there's a correlation between mods, even simple one's like pulling the intake silencer, and the "stall". I don't believe anyone has complained about stalling with a 100% stock factory delivered Cobra. Could it be that the computer is just taking a while to adjust to the mods? Or maybe one's driving technique is aggrivating the condition during the computer adaptation? I don't know.
I do know that mine hasn't stalled since I had 1320 miles on my car. And that was almost 2000 miles ago.
Anyone?
At the risk of getting flamed, maybe that's why Ford looks so dimly at mods. Cars these days are a carefully-engineered compromise between power, tractability, emissions, fuel economy and reliability. Replacing a few parts may improve power to the detriment of other elements of performance. I'm not saying that Ford (or dealers) are always fair and reasonable, but your quote recognizes that the stalling problems started with the mods. Threatening to sue Ford will get us nowhere if these are the facts.
Years ago my father counseled me on building up a hot rod. I wanted to bolt on a manifold and 4-barrel carb. He told me that the minute I started upping power, I needed to think about the rest of the drive train, the brakes, the tires, steering, suspension, etc. He taught me to take a "systems" view.
I could not answer either question honestly. My Cobra has stalled three times when cold rolling to a stop sign. That is a stall but I could not call it life threatening.
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Mine has stalled two times within the first 140 miles and it is 100% stock. Blows that theory, huh?:shrug:
btw: Both times the car was up to full temperature, it had been driven for at least 45minutes by that time.
Mine has stalled two times within the first 140 miles and it is 100% stock. Blows that theory, huh?:shrug:
btw: Both times the car was up to full temperature, it had been driven for at least 45minutes by that time.
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That sure does. When did you get your 03 Cobra?
Mine started back up with no problem.
Interestingly, my car stalled when I was driving it "still in the wrapper" from one of the delivering dealers lots, to their service area to get it's PDI. Then it stalled on the way home. The stall got less frequent with time, and totally went away with the "L" pulley and my Amazon Racing Diablosport chip.
Weird, huh?
JT
Weird, huh?
JT
STFT problem? Anyone hip on tuning want to chime in here? MJCHIP?
Yes. There doesn't seem to be any commonality in why it stalls, whether it's stock or modded, other than it stalls!
Some here have done the "reflash" and it solved their stall while others who have done the PCM "reflash" still have the stall.
I wonder if MJCHIP has looked into this at all or any other tuner?
Mines stock, , , idles a bit lumpy with the A/C off, but haven't had it stalled yet.
Time to put the ol' Problem Analysis training to work... :read:
Start with a problem statement: "2003 Cobras Stall"
What Object has the problem: 2003 Cobras
Ok, so are there any other cars having this same problem? Does it appear on the Mustang GTs, Mach1, or Explorers, which all have 4.6L? Or is it limited to the Cobras (i.e. Supercharged 4.6L)?
What is the problem: Stalling
So are the Stalling cars having ANY other problems? Do they also have "the tick", clogged CATs, or anything of that sort?
Someone post the answers, if we have them, and then we can continue.
BTW- I don't have my '03 yet, so I cant do this analysis on my own car.
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