paxton or set of twins

[Eric@jpc]

JPC's running turbo now....

yup and will never go back

Didn't Kelley switch to a JPC Turbo? :lol:

yup :rockon:

ill get some dyno sheets to post the power difference between turbo and blower

not all 600 HP cars are created equal! :rockon:

 

[CPRsm]

as far as what it costs to run 8's, there are more factors than just slapping on a s/c.

Whaaaa? I know that lol

What it retails for is around $6200, as for what it can be bought for. That's for a pm.

Now we're getting somewhere. Add the cost of headers, midpipe, kmember, tubular core supoort, t bolts, sheetmetal expansion tank, fab and tubing to head unit,etc, then what do you have? Not a 4699 kit that runs 8's on stock headers and kmember. Possible? Maybe. Does ANYONE do that? Nope. So as the point we were making, once you start making big power and going faster, a blower isn't gobs cheaper than turbo kits by the time you buy supporting mods. As it looks I'd add ID's to my kit, and the pricing and parts list would be pretty much the same as my base kit (with an intercooler about 30% larger ;-) ) That was the only point being made. If you want cheap go buy nitrous and a few bottles lol.

As far as "testing", didn't that kit make over 1000rwhp over 2-3 months ago? how much testing do you need?

Yes, almost 1200rwhp w the filter on lol. I was referring to the customers assembling thier cars right now. They won't have the time to test before then. New setup bugs, tune, converter, etc. The other one, last I heard spends a ton of time in Mexico roll racing his ass off lol. He ended up with another toy for the strip. Might not be this event or head to head, but people are gunnin for ya. That's the fun part about being out front. But we'll gladly remove to target from your back soon. :beer:

 

[CPRsm]

Are all these turbo kit's including fuel injectors or is that 7k base price without?

Ours is without injectors also. Turbo option for stock engine to 1300rwhp+, same price. Comes w headers, down pipes all the way to axle backs, so no mid pipe to buy, kmember, tubular core support, expansion tank, and the baddest intercoolers on the market. Air to air or air to water, same price. The A/A is the largest on the market. Only real upgrade to the kit is the 2000hp A/W cooler. And it's only 800 bucks more. I say "only" but retail alone it's close to 2k anywhere you buy a 2 1000hp cored intercooler.

Some people love all the extra gear since they were going to buy it anyways. Some want only 600rwhp and want to spwed as little as possible and that's ok, too.

 

[poof100]

Arent you still testing your setup? I thought it was down since norwalk?

+1 to this^^^

The blue car didn't run at Joilet right, only the Red car? Was the trans already out of the blue car for Joilet or making other changes?

 

[Bud]

I'll be at bowling green for match races, like I said. All these turbo cars are welcome to show up. (again). None of them seemed to make the call for Norwalk either.

It's hard being a poor dood trying to personally fund a full on build. Lots of ramen noodles involved but looks like the stars might be aligning for BG. Won't be chasing down any of you big hitters with my little turbos but hopefully we see it in the 8's. I'll be there with a brand new setup, no experience, and some wicked nerves. Sounds like a good combo right :uh oh:

Dustin...passenger seat is taken, still got some seating in the back of the exped if you want a free ride halfway across the country though.

 

[CPRsm]

Thought it was a given. But I just got back from Illinois for a few days. With a back half, and restore to finish up, and kits,..... Idk man. I'll
Call you tmrw. Been trying to since you got back to me lol

 

[beefcake]

Arent you still testing your setup? I thought it was down since norwalk?

we are making some changes for BG, we've had the car out locally a couple times, track is not optimal for testing is our biggest issue.

the only real issue we had was sorting the tune out on launch, which is about the only thing our track won't do, and that's hook.

we've also been focusing on doing some in house development for stuff for the Paxton kits with the red car and getting that car together.

Whaaaa? I know that lol

Now we're getting somewhere. Add the cost of headers, midpipe, kmember, tubular core supoort, t bolts, sheetmetal expansion tank, fab and tubing to head unit,etc, then what do you have? Not a 4699 kit that runs 8's on stock headers and kmember. Possible? Maybe. Does ANYONE do that? Nope. So as the point we were making, once you start making big power and going faster, a blower isn't gobs cheaper than turbo kits by the time you buy supporting mods. As it looks I'd add ID's to my kit, and the pricing and parts list would be pretty much the same as my base kit (with an intercooler about 30% larger ;-) ) That was the only point being made. If you want cheap go buy nitrous and a few bottles lol.


Yes, almost 1200rwhp w the filter on lol. I was referring to the customers assembling thier cars right now. They won't have the time to test before then. New setup bugs, tune, converter, etc. The other one, last I heard spends a ton of time in Mexico role racing his ass off lol. He ended up with another toy for the strip. Might not be this event or head to head, but people are gunnin for ya. That's the fun part about being out front. But we'll gladly remove to target from your back soon. :beer:

again, who says that tubular k member, core support, etc.. is needed. I would say headers would be more than likely needed, but not the other stuff.

I think with decent air, we will see 8.3's or better at bg without spray, that's a far cry from just breaking into the 8's.

 

[D.T.R]

This is getting good lol

 

[wikdlx]

website for CPR turbo kit or a link?

 

[Deespeed99]

I would say headers would be more than likely needed, but not the other stuff.

So doesnt that make the kit 6800-7000 once you add headers & a YSI? Thats the same if not almost the same as a turbo kit...

 

[beefcake]

So doesnt that make the kit 6800-7000 once you add headers & a YSI? Thats the same if not almost the same as a turbo kit...

not even close to that

I could set you up with a package for $5834 shipped.

YSI, 8 rib up grade, smaller pulley, competition inlet, full set of lt headers

 

[Ultrakla$$ic]

This is getting OLD lol

Fixed....

I'd buy from Terry, Dustin, and Eric depending on the choice I made. All good guys and service after the sale is PARAMOUNT to me, and all these guys, I feel confident, would deliver.

 

[CPRsm]

Quite Darren, it has to be more exciting than polishing a car over and over that doesn't move. But I did laugh my damn ass off at your last exhaust vid. So unless you have another one let us have some fun lol. But it's about info. People think blowers are always cheaper and it's not always true.

again, who says that tubular k member, core support, etc.. is needed. I would say headers would be more than likely needed, but not the other stuff.

I think with decent air, we will see 8.3's or better at bg without spray, that's a far cry from just breaking into the 8's.

Yours is also a far cry from a street car now also. But again never said those parts were NEEDED. What I said was anyone looking to go that fast puts it on anyways. I know I said that. Oh wait I did lol

,...... runs 8's on stock headers and kmember. Possible? Maybe. Does ANYONE do that? Nope. So as the point we were making, once you start making big power and going faster, a blower isn't gobs cheaper than turbo kits by the time you buy supporting mods.

not even close to that

I could set you up with a package for $5834 shipped.

YSI, 8 rib up grade, smaller pulley, competition inlet, full set of lt headers

You can keep lowering the price like you're allergic to money, but it's still just not that much cheaper if any.. Still have the problematic expansion tank in that kit you listed? Add 200 for the fix. Still have a mid pipe to buy. 150? And until we realistically see a street car run 8's with no tubular parts, add the cost of that, too. Much slower guys still buy the parts also don't forget. But for serious, at that level that intercooler isn't gonna cut it with that head unit. Mine MIGHT squeek by since it's so much larger, but I wouldn't try it. I'd rather intercool to maintain power, then be happy because it doesn't pull timing. That's how you blow shit up. What does it cost to upgrade to a better intercooler? Possible?

 

[turbosha]

I'd like to see the turbo kit. Do you have a website? Pictures?

 

[Deespeed99]

I'd like to see the turbo kit. Do you have a website? Pictures?

There is a build thread. Do a search for post under his name. Ill also have a build thread up soon.

 

[CPRsm]

No website yet. Old one was forum based like this one. I didn't have the time or inclination to keep up with perma banning the porn spammers. After a few years, shut it down. I used to mostly sell/make kits locally and private label for other companies. But getting together a retail site for pics, prices and options and what not. I'm biased but do not think you will find higher quality at any price. But there a lots of pictures of exactly what to expect in every kit in the threads below.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/2011-2014-mustangs-354/851253-2011-turbo-kit-giveaway.html

http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...d-new-2012-coming-few-mods-big-ass-turbo.html

http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...d-w-cprs-prototype-kit-warning-pic-heavy.html

 

[MRSUPRA]

It seems pretty clear to me that the Paxton kit even with the 8 rib upgrade and headers is cheaper than a turbo kit;-At least until someone builds an affordable one..

 

[CPRsm]

Of course it is, if that's all you add. But on3's is "affordable."

 

[Deespeed99]

It seems pretty clear to me that the Paxton kit even with the 8 rib upgrade and headers is cheaper than a turbo kit;-At least until someone builds an affordable one..

Correct it is cheaper if you go through beefcake. LOL!

 

[beefcake]

Quite Darren, it has to be more exciting than polishing a car over and over that doesn't move. But I did laugh my damn ass off at your last exhaust vid. So unless you have another one let us have some fun lol. But it's about info. People think blowers are always cheaper and it's not always true.


Yours is also a far cry from a street car now also. But again never said those parts were NEEDED. What I said was anyone looking to go that fast puts it on anyways. I know I said that. Oh wait I did lol





You can keep lowering the price like you're allergic to money, but it's still just not that much cheaper if any.. Still have the problematic expansion tank in that kit you listed? Add 200 for the fix. Still have a mid pipe to buy. 150? And until we realistically see a street car run 8's with no tubular parts, add the cost of that, too. Much slower guys still buy the parts also don't forget. But for serious, at that level that intercooler isn't gonna cut it with that head unit. Mine MIGHT squeek by since it's so much larger, but I wouldn't try it. I'd rather intercool to maintain power, then be happy because it doesn't pull timing. That's how you blow shit up. What does it cost to upgrade to a better intercooler? Possible?

i don't know how many times i have to say it. my car went 8.74 with a k member and radiator support. take those off and you have another 50-60 lbs, the car would still be well into the 8's

the price i listed was with an offroad mid pipe

the car was a 100% street car @ 8.74. drove to the track on pump grocery store e85, same way the car was driven every single day.

3850lbs, add the k member and radiator support and your 3900lbs, still well into the 8.s a/c, shaker, back up cam, everything including the added weight of the cage. so, if you want to get technical, take the 100+ lbs of the cage out, and the car would be even quicker as you add 50, but take off 110 for the cage.

a cage isn't needed to run 8's, it's great safety equipment, but not needed for an 8 second street car