SVTP your my only hope!!!!! Car not firing

[SVT_Troy]

For the FRPS we unplugged it and same thing is happening. Also tried swapping it out.

We had a electrical issue with our old Rinker boat and let me tell you, we changed so many things on it and up until the day we sold it we couldn't figure out what was wrong. Not stoked about this. Especially since I have no idea what was damaged or shorted.

Maybe my wording was confusin but what I was trying to say is that a FRPS is not causing your issues and replacing it won't help..... IMO

 

[hotcobra03]

Part 1 -4.6L, 5.4L Ford Index of Articles.

 

[Darko]

I don't have much to add other than if you have 12 volts at the coils that is good , but you need to have the ground completed to make them work.
l have not looked at the schematic for your car, I have an 01, but I think (dumb idea I know ) the ccrm is where the relay is for that .
Have you tried spraying starting fluid into the throttle body to rule out a fuel problem?
how do you know you have fuel? are the plugs wet?
I am just making a few educated observations .

We ruled out any fuel issues.

The major problem is that the sensors aren't getting power including the injectors and spark plugs/coils. :shrug::shrug::shrug:

 

[Alberts03cobra]

I would probably take it to a shop and have them figure it out instead of playing the guessing game.

 

[UncleSAm]

I would probably take it to a shop and have them figure it out instead of playing the guessing game.

Already did

 

[Darko]

I would probably take it to a shop and have them figure it out instead of playing the guessing game.

Thats why its at RET

 

[hotcobra03]

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[Darko]

file sent to email

Got it thanks. I need to setup a PC at my house. I'll use the one at work for now. Only have a Mac at home

 

[racebronco2]

We ruled out any fuel issues.

The major problem is that the sensors aren't getting power including the injectors and spark plugs/coils. :shrug::shrug::shrug:

Double check that the sensors are connected correctly when you removed the blower. Two of the oval connectors are the same size and shape. I think it's the fpde and the ait2's that are the same but i could be wrong since it has been a while. I installed them on the wrong sensor and the car wouldn't start. With my aeroforce gauge i noticed that my ait2's were pegged when the car was cold.

By installing the connectors at the wrong sensors i was ground out the 5v reference and none of the sensors had the required 5v. Both of the connectors are on the drivers side rear of the blower.

 

[hotcobra03]

example of manual

 

[hotcobra03]

here is the 05 link..most of it is the same for ours in pced section..not sure if this will work from a cell phone,,,chiltons worked on mine but that link is locked now

Ford Service Manuals - 2005

 

[Darko]

Anyone else wanna throw some ideas out there?

 

[Darko]

Double check that the sensors are connected correctly when you removed the blower. Two of the oval connectors are the same size and shape. I think it's the fpde and the ait2's that are the same but i could be wrong since it has been a while. I installed them on the wrong sensor and the car wouldn't start. With my aeroforce gauge i noticed that my ait2's were pegged when the car was cold.

By installing the connectors at the wrong sensors i was ground out the 5v reference and none of the sensors had the required 5v. Both of the connectors are on the drivers side rear of the blower.

Are you referring to the any of the EGR sensors?

 

[racebronco2]

Are you referring to the any of the EGR sensors?

Yes the preesure fedback egr, it's the gray rectangle piece that has two small hoses on it. It's the same connector as the ait's. I mixed then up when i re-installed my ported eaton. Just make sure you have the correct connector on the correct sensor. One of the previous post shows the color codes for the connectors.

 

[Snakesvt04]

Do you have a boost a spark. Had similar issue about 3 years ago found a bad wire..also is your pats alarm have anything to do ? Might need to calibrate ...I had to do that as well after that happened

 

[hotcobra03]

Are you referring to the any of the EGR sensors?

bap sensor..located on driver side rear intake..flat square sensor bolted to intake

dpfegr sensor..located driver side rear above valve cover..black sensor with 2 vaccum hoses,,bolted to bracket thats bolted to side of supercharger

 

[jmstekguy]

seeing you wired in the aem meth kit, id say give the big bulk head plug on the passenger rear fire wall a look if you maybe forgot to tighten the 10mm bolt that holds it together. this is pretty common to miss.

other wise a little more info would be nice.

1. does it crank over?
2. if it does, does it have spark at more than 1 coil pack, easily tested with a spark tester or a grounded sparkplug
3. does it have fuel pressure at the frps or test port
4. if all these are fine, check for injector pulse at the injectors, more than 2 of them minimum

an engine requires fuel, air, spark, cancel out each an thats the process of diagnostics...

 

[jmstekguy]

We ruled out any fuel issues.

The major problem is that the sensors aren't getting power including the injectors and spark plugs/coils. :shrug::shrug::shrug:

check that big bulkhead connector...

 

[Darko]

Yes the preesure fedback egr, it's the gray rectangle piece that has two small hoses on it. It's the same connector as the ait's. I mixed then up when i re-installed my ported eaton. Just make sure you have the correct connector on the correct sensor. One of the previous post shows the color codes for the connectors.

I deleted my EGR before this all happened. Dont think thats it. But I'll double check the sensors

Do you have a boost a spark. Had similar issue about 3 years ago found a bad wire..also is your pats alarm have anything to do ? Might need to calibrate ...I had to do that as well after that happened

We checked the PATS with one of the tunes. Not it

seeing you wired in the aem meth kit, id say give the big bulk head plug on the passenger rear fire wall a look if you maybe forgot to tighten the 10mm bolt that holds it together. this is pretty common to miss.

other wise a little more info would be nice.

1. does it crank over?
2. if it does, does it have spark at more than 1 coil pack, easily tested with a spark tester or a grounded sparkplug
3. does it have fuel pressure at the frps or test port
4. if all these are fine, check for injector pulse at the injectors, more than 2 of them minimum

an engine requires fuel, air, spark, cancel out each an thats the process of diagnostics...

You can find most of this info in post #1. Bulk head was never messed with but we checked it anyway, not the problem.

Engine cranks, just not firing. Not coils are sparking. It has pressure in the rails and we checked the FRPS. The injectors also arent getting power.

check that big bulkhead connector...

Checked it

 

[Darko]

If I cant figure this out by tomorrow I'm gonna have it towed to a local Ford dealership. Blahhhhh

Appreciate all the feed back guys