They're here: http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...la-autoshow-2013-mustangs-am-one-77-more.html
With a lot more pics at the links I posted.
'13 GT500 parts that will retrofit to any '07-'12...
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They're here: http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...la-autoshow-2013-mustangs-am-one-77-more.html
With a lot more pics at the links I posted.
Looks like the bumper cover from the Boss 302 will go right on the 10-12 GT500's single exhaust and all. Taillights too.
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I like the Boss bumper cover to.
Great pics Snake, gonna make it to the show in the next few days....
Is the launch feature the same as in the boss? What about rear tire size? Are they going to be the same as the current car?
Steve @ Tousley Ford verified the part numbers for me because I wanted to know the difference in cams(if there was any).
The part numbers and price are identical.
Thats another reason why I want to know the part numbers and specs on the 13+ cams.
According to the Ford website:
SVT Performance Package
3.31 axle with TORSEN differential, unique wheels, R-Compound tires, Bilstein adjustable dampers, unique springs, unique interior touches, front fascia dive planes
SVT Track Pack
External oil cooler, transmission cooler pump, differential cooler, fog lamp delete, brake cooling ducts
R-compound tires and I wonder what the "unique interior touches" are.......but I don't like the idea of fog lamp delete
SVT Performance Package
3.31 axle with TORSEN differential, unique wheels, R-Compound tires, Bilstein adjustable dampers, unique springs, unique interior touches, front fascia dive planes
SVT Track Pack
External oil cooler, transmission cooler pump, differential cooler, fog lamp delete, brake cooling ducts
R-compound tires and I wonder what the "unique interior touches" are.......but I don't like the idea of fog lamp delete
The 7000 rpm Mustang GT 5.0 has oil squirters, so I don't see it as a flip flop at all. The Boss has a higher redline, plus was designed as the extended high rpm road race car. The oil squirters are very valuable in high boost (high heat) situations.
As for what I'd like to see as a retrofit (the original topic), I'd like to see the TVS from FRPP with Pro-Cal for the '11-'12. Definately the clutch and driveshaft, too! Torsen Diff..Recaro seats...Oh, and a 5.8 crate motor.
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As long as Ford is still using a solid axle on the GT500, you will not see rear Brembo brakes, unfortunately.
The reason is on the 8.8, or any c-clip rear axle for that matter, the slight inwards-outwards movement of the axles will cause pad knockback. That results in a dropping pedal and inconsistant pedal feel, especially on a track.
Ford has been using the same cast iron, single piston rear calipers on the Mustang since 1994. To say they are outdated would be an understatement. However, they are ideal in this scenerio because they are floating calipers, which minimizes piston knockback due to the floating design, and they incorporate the e-brake mechanism, which prevents the piston from being pushed back into its bore as the axles move.
Looks like we'll have to wait until the next generation IRS GT500 for a 4 wheel Brembo package.
How do they offer big brake upgrades then? I'm just curious if people would have issues with big brakes in the rear.
They may incorporate a type of c-clip eliminator kit, which uses pressed on axle bearings instead of c-clips to retain the axles in the housing. Then there is also the problem of a parking brake, which is eliminated when using fixed calipers. So some type of drum-in-had or separate parking brake caliper must be used.
Those kits are not OEM in terms of durability or longevity though, and most are only recommended for drag racing (straight line only).
Basically, Ford (or any other OEMs) are not willing to use fixed rear calipers on c-clip solid axles due to axial movement of the drive axles.
Ahh okay, makes sense now. Thanks alot man.
What site did you read about the r compound tires? That could be a serious game changer on a PP/Track Pack car.
This says it's the same tires on all the models
LA Live: Ford’s 200+MPH, 650HP 2013 Ford Shelby GT500
Thanks. That's very interesting to know : )
Judging by their site, the GT500 at the show and in all of the pics is just a base car. It has fog lamps )so no track pack, and it does not have dive planes, so no PP. It certainly looked to have a cooler of some sort in the upper grill in some of the pics, so maybe the specs are not fully ironed out yet.
I WANT PICS OF MORE COLORS and PRICING INFO!!!!
I WANT PICS OF MORE COLORS and PRICING INFO!!!!
http://www.shuttervelocity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/LA-Autoshow-056.jpg
The motor on display in LA says Ford GT cams.
Parts number wise I see the following...
From here.
In mid '07, Eric Brooks states that '03-'04 Cobra cams are the same as the GT500 cams (we can assume he was looking at '07 GT500 specs for sake of argument and I think we can all agree they were the same at least through '09, yes?).
From here.
One week ago, in the same thread as above, Michael at L&M states
From here.
Michael makes no distinction between '07-'09 or '10-'12 cams being any different or any inference that late GT500 cams spec the same as the old GT cams.
You mentioned Tousley, and I found a thread where they stated
From here.Yup, FRPP reinstated the M-6550-GT cam kit and we have them in stock.
$418.00 a set plus shipping.
link to the FRPP page on these,
While the cams from FRPP are no longer available, the FRPP page linked states...
From here.
If the GT cams were the '10 and later GT500 cams, that would mean that the lift on each cam was over 1mm more (can anyone find the OE specs for a '10 or later GT500?).
I guess the bottom line is this...if they were the same, anyone looking for a set of the now unavailable GT cams could just order from the Ford dealer a set of '12 GT500 cams (for example). Because the inference here is that they are the same, right? Then why is MMR out of them and fairly recently at that?
Check this thread out to see what I mean.
And finally, where in your query to Tousley did they verify the late GT500 cams as being the same as GT cams? I only see you making the supposition (with no response to it from Tousley)...
From here.Ironhand said:
Was there more correspondence elsewhere (PM's between you and Tousley) that verified what you are saying?
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Wildman, I never said anything specific about the type of caliper, only who had been supplying them (Varga/TRW) as well as them being around for a long time. I should have been clearer. Ford contracted yet again (or so it would appear), for the '13 model with the same supplier. Brembo could have been awarded the contract at some point in time to build the calipers to Ford's specifications but that has yet to happen out back.
Or, Ford could have changed the design with some upgrades, such as going back to a pressed on bearing/retaining plate (ala the old 9" rear) and dumped the C-clips, but they haven't chosen to do that either. So here we are with different suppliers, once again, from front to rear.
Or, Ford could have changed the design with some upgrades, such as going back to a pressed on bearing/retaining plate (ala the old 9" rear) and dumped the C-clips, but they haven't chosen to do that either. So here we are with different suppliers, once again, from front to rear.
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