Precision industries converter

[beefcake]

Let me first say I'm not trying to drag Sean into this

I'm not either, but I called him BEFORE posting information to verify what I already knew, and posted right after speaking to him while it was still fresh. And again, I have a .wav file of the convo.

It's hard to nail down the exact date per Sean how long it's been out of the car because it all runs together.

Acutally, it's pretty Easy, You just look up the records. He bought the 12 from me in August 2011, and the Circle D September of 2011.

So, for the past year and a half, that Eric said Sean had been testing the Pro Torque, he's acutally been running the circle D.

And, he's been running the numbers on Blower only with the Circle D.

This is not correct. We spoke to Sean and he said he cannot remember exactly what converter was in the car between the 2. He can confirm he has over 100 passes on the Protorque and tons of 9.4 times.


When he got the '12 car he cannot remember if the Protorque went in or not with that set up. So we'll call it apples to apples,

Actually, it's not apples to apples. Since I have posted the time frames, on when the the car and the Circle D was bought. The Pro torque has never been in the 12

he has no problem saying the converter could and possibly did go .2th's quicker (splitting hairs, I'm not going to torture him about it any longer but your not going to say it did or didn't, either way in his own words they both work great. Now the money is invested in what's in the car why change back.

Your saying that the Pro Torque went 2 tenths quicker than the circle d? lol. That I find very hard to believe.

Not to mention. On the pro torque, he was running blower and a 150 shot of direct port nitrous. The car should 60' better than blower only with that much torque out of the hole.

As far as "why change back" shouldn't be the question. The question should be, why invest the $ in the first place.

And again, per Sean, PRO TORQUE WOULD NOT CALL HIM BACK ABOUT AN ACTUAL PRODCUTION PIECE

I didn't read the exact but he's jumbled up some time frames we know he has a circle d in the car now.

And has since 9/2011 and for all of 2010, and the beginning of 2011, he had the OEM converter in the car.

So he ran the Pro Torque for "maybe" 6 months, maybe, that's a big difference than 1 1/2 years. And again, this isn't even a production piece.

He called them over and over to get a "production piece" and couldn't get a return call.

Fact from the horses mouth! Ask him, and then post back up and call me a liar....

Is this really the case? we know people also :bored:

Yes, it's 100% the case. My trans has been to circle D one time.

When we tested the stage 1's for Exedy, Brian installed the clutches at the shop. When the stage 2's were ready for testing. Circle D had us ship the transmission to them and do the stage 2's.
Now, as far as the converter, I ran a 2c for all of 2011. While the trans was at Circle D "Transmissions" Chris wanted to try something new on the converter and modified it. We tested it for a month, the car didn't like it as much, so he swapped it back to the 2c.

 

[Eric@jpc]

Sean will post later i called him and asked him to clear this up

the Protorque had over 100 hits


dont worry beef no one is making you run the protorque so just relax i said he tested it for over a year not for the past year and 1/2. If i made it sound that way sorry i just said he had it for over a year. so let sean post up and we will see its really not a big deal. the 2011 went 940s with a protorque end of story.

I didnt "record" the conversation with me and sean i didnt think i needed to..

 

[beefcake]

Sean will post later i called him and asked him to clear this up

the Protorque had over 100 hits


dont worry beef no one is making you run the protorque so just relax i said he tested it for over a year not for the past year and 1/2. If i made it sound that way sorry i just said he had it for over a year. so let sean post up and we will see its really not a big deal. the 2011 went 940s with a protorque end of story.

I didnt "record" the conversation with me and sean i didnt think i needed to..

goodie, more inaccurate information......I love playing with you lol.

first, as far as recording, it's an app on my phone, it comes in handy just for things like this.

so, you said it was tested in his car for over a year, fine, we'll let you now say a year...

okay so

because i always make sure i'm not fibbing....and posting facts....

Here is a post by Sean on 4/30/11 talking about blowing through the oem converter

Some new bests yesterday with vids

Here is a post from Sean 10/11 thanking Circle D for the new best

Fastest 2012 /fastest stock auto

Here is a post from Sean talking about his car that was totalled the weekend of August 9th / 10th 2011

New car for me!!!

So, basic math dictates if he didn't have a converter on 4/30/11, we'll say he got the converter the next week, just to give you maximum time.

that would be 5/7/2011

his car was totalled on 8/9 or 8/10 of 2011

he bought the new car from me, put the circle d in, and then thanked them for the new best times.

by my math, may (if he got it in may) to august is

let me count.
1
2
3

yes, 3 months. but that's close to "over a year", I mean "A year" lol

 

[Blazer707@TBR]

Thank god i didnt buy an auto after reading this thread. OP most likely traded his car in after reading this.



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[Sof Top]

What a bunch of school girls!




Circle D converters FTW!

 

[beefcake]

What a bunch of school girls!
Circle D converters FTW!

lol, we're all just having fun.

 

[9Sec03Cobra]

Ok....So here's the deal.

Just before the Muscle Mustang shootout in September of 2010, I contacted Joe from ProTorque about doing a converter for my car. We did not have enough time to get it worked out before the shootout. I did however receive it in october from what i recall. I was kind of tight lipped about it for a while until i got to run the converter a while.I ran that converter in the 2011 untill it was totalled in august of 2011. So i had it in the car for almost a year.

We did have some issues that we thought were converter related at first but come to find out were some slight tuning issues with some of the torque tables. The car probably had 100 plus passes and quite a few regular street miles on it. The car ran consistant 9.4's for several months. I did install that converter in a customers car for about 6-7 months after i replaced it with the circle d in mine.

Long story short, I had no issues with the converter at all. It could have stood to be looser but it took a beating for sure!! My customer had my old setup(low boost and direct port) so he wasnt easy on it either! His car was running 9.8-9.9's on a regular. The converter still seems to be fine. I could send it back to Joe if he would like to take a look at it.

When i bought the 12 i did purchase a circle d converter from chris. It is a very nice unit for sure. It was more so custom setup for my car so of course it was a little looser and 60's did drop.

In conclusion... Both converters served a purpose and have held up just fine to the abuse i put them through! I do think that a lower priced (budget converter) is a good idea for the people that are lower hp and maybe dont track the car as much as some of us and may be on a tighter budget.

Sorry if there was any confusion on this matter. Both companys make a good product. I have used several converters from both of them.

 

[squeak93]

There is a lot of good info for anyone looking to buy a converter.

 

[me32]

Ok....So here's the deal.

Just before the Muscle Mustang shootout in September of 2010, I contacted Joe from ProTorque about doing a converter for my car. We did not have enough time to get it worked out before the shootout. I did however receive it in october from what i recall. I was kind of tight lipped about it for a while until i got to run the converter a while.I ran that converter in the 2011 untill it was totalled in august of 2011. So i had it in the car for almost a year.

We did have some issues that we thought were converter related at first but come to find out were some slight tuning issues with some of the torque tables. The car probably had 100 plus passes and quite a few regular street miles on it. The car ran consistant 9.4's for several months. I did install that converter in a customers car for about 6-7 months after i replaced it with the circle d in mine.

Long story short, I had no issues with the converter at all. It could have stood to be looser but it took a beating for sure!! My customer had my old setup(low boost and direct port) so he wasnt easy on it either! His car was running 9.8-9.9's on a regular. The converter still seems to be fine. I could send it back to Joe if he would like to take a look at it.

When i bought the 12 i did purchase a circle d converter from chris. It is a very nice unit for sure. It was more so custom setup for my car so of course it was a little looser and 60's did drop.

In conclusion... Both converters served a purpose and have held up just fine to the abuse i put them through! I do think that a lower priced (budget converter) is a good idea for the people that are lower hp and maybe dont track the car as much as some of us and may be on a tighter budget.

Sorry if there was any confusion on this matter. Both companys make a good product. I have used several converters from both of them.

thanks for clearing that up. so either way you cant lose on any converter. :beer:

 

[beefcake]

So looks like we were both right and wrong

Also looks like someone was fibbing bit when they claimed quickest "stock" automatic LOL

 

[9Sec03Cobra]

So looks like we were both right and wrong

Also looks like someone was fibbing bit when they claimed quickest "stock" automatic LOL

It still has a bone stock tranny!

 

[beefcake]

It still hase a bone stock tranny!

You know what I'm Talkin bout fugger.

 

[grnenvy]

If your building an 800rwhp+ car u want the best converter possible it always sucks when u have to pull it out for repairs.
But for the guys making 600-700 rwhp theres no reason u should have to spend $1100 for a converter.
Shit I don't know of one person that has blown the factory converter.

 

[beefcake]

If your building an 800rwhp+ car u want the best converter possible it always sucks when u have to pull it out for repairs.
But for the guys making 600-700 rwhp theres no reason u should have to spend $1100 for a converter.
Shit I don't know of one person that has blown the factory converter.

The factory unit is a great piece

 

[Tommy@JPC]

Let me just make this simple. I'm tired of breaking down this mess. OP was inquiring about a P.I. converter. In turn he found they do offer one at the "new car tax" as stated. We have been trying to work with someone for years now to offer a lower priced unit that works. I can say I personnally had numerous hours and days in trying to work with Hughes Perf on making one after I saw their "6r80" converter at the PRI show in Dec. 2010. They dropped the ball and Circle D became the only option for a long time and we've sold and installed them.

So now the snowball effect happens, beefcake saysI sell this, I run this, I will give you free shipping. The consummate salesman, which makes sense Terry sells cars for a living which is great.

Eric posted what we've been trying to keep a little under wraps due to test time in the winter. An option that the majority has been looking for and what we've been wanting to do with a quality company for years now. Protorque is caught up now and wants to work with us to help test their product that most if not 99% of the market wants and needs. An affordable converter that works.

Interest is shown in a product that will help fill a void in the market. Swoop in the beefcake effect... for no reason "my car runs this, my car makes that, my car tested this" Circle d has billet parts it's not OE it is superior that's why it's more expensive. Try's to state since it's not using custom this and that's it will not hold up, he has ran his for years @ 750+ hp so I would think the car has 20-35k miles on that beast... This is not true just my assumption, I may be wrong. What I do know is I can name A LOT more cars making more HP and going a lot quicker and faster not running billet this and that as stated later by Eric, beef tries to say options are good just a random apples to oranges comparision. Also throwing words around like multi disc. OE is multi disc so everyone is in the loop. Also the stock lock up works just fine I'm trying to nail down a good source on testing that, I do know there has been issues with locking up aftermarket converters in high hp cars. It's a work in progress, still an very new threshold for these cars and products.

Now again Eric was trying to keep the air clean since the attempted take over has happened, this isn't the first time. Basically posting facts and some misinformation about Sean running 9.20's. We honestly did speak to Sean prior to posting and he has above cleared all of that up .

We were really trying not to have a p*ssing contest. It's not what we do here, we try to be informative and we try to offer up almost anything you can dream of so you have options. We go the extra mile to make that happen so not to force a product down your throat because that is all we can get. This is pretty common in this industry and it's very annoying. We sell everything because the consumers are different and have different needs. Circle D is a great product, that's why we sell it. But that doesn't mean we will not explore other options to help bring products to the market to expand the options.

Really tried to be honest throughout and correct any misinformation we had. If we were off on the amount of time it was in Sean's car so be it, it did have a crap ton of passes on it, I would say equal to the other converter in beefs car. It's all good, if anything it's a great sign for things to come for the masses and hopefully the OP didn't buy a manual swap lol.

I almost did not post this after I saw Sean's post to clear up the numbers and info but somethings are very frustrating and it's getting old quick. I'm really trying not to be a school girl and some little pokes may seem that way it just depends on how you decide to read this.

 

[beefcake]

without trying to clutter, as i already said we both had correct and incorrect information as to the testing...

I never said the pro torque would not hold up. I was explaining for people that may not know, why the circle d costs what it does.

I do still believe, because of how the Circle D is made, that over the life of say a 100,000 mile car. That it will indeed hold up better.

That said, as I have said several times already. That Pro Torque is a good name and they make a good product. For the average guy. It will be a good offering and i'm sure will hold up for years.

Now we can move on

and like I always say, you guys do a hell of a job!

 

[H-TownMachI]

If your building an 800rwhp+ car u want the best converter possible it always sucks when u have to pull it out for repairs.
But for the guys making 600-700 rwhp theres no reason u should have to spend $1100 for a converter.
Shit I don't know of one person that has blown the factory converter.

I spent 1100 plus tax on my Cirlce D converter and I make less than 400 whp. It was/is the only converter available. The stock converter wasn't cutting it. Circle D really has no competitors in the 6R80 market.

 

[BPatterson]

Actually, they do. People just aren't calling enough converter companies to find out. They're relying solely on what they read on the internet.

 

[4VFTW]

ICircle D really has no competitors in the 6R80 market.

they have competition , but the competition has to get people to take the chance on their product otherwise people will continue to be sheep and buy Circle D conveters. Im not in any way bashing on Circle D , I know their converters a great units...i'm just saying people arent gonna risk buying an unknown converter to save $400 so the competition needs to figure out how to get their converters into some cars if they want to sell them.

 

[try03venom]

I want a convertor that doesnt rattle at idle !