Drag Suspension?

[D.T.R]

Hey guys, I'm mainly looking for a couple of suspension mods that will help traction for drag racing. I don't care about stance, and i don't care about autoX/Road course... this is mainly for drag racing. What are some of the "best bang for the buck" mods to have, keeping in mind what I mentioned above?
It's an auto car, with bigs and littles, converter, etc and I want it to hook really good... but I'm not quite ready to spend $1k+ on fully adjustable coilovers and what not.
Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated.

 

[dirtyd88]

I know a lot of guys are running the V6 rear springs on their cars.

 

[D.T.R]

^ That's interesting.
Anyone has some data on that? some track info? 60ft? etc...
is the stock suspension good as it is?

 

[truebluedevil02]

QA1's and cobra jet springs?

 

[dirtyd88]

^ That's interesting.
Anyone has some data on that? some track info? 60ft? etc...
is the stock suspension good as it is?

Contact this guy. He is a local club member and can probably shed some light.

Brent Yager's 2011 Mustang GTCS - Home

 

[Fabbed5.0]

I would do Viking double adjustables and some BMR springs. that with lower and upper control arms

 

[UnleashedBeast]

Stock springs
Strange single adjustable struts/shocks
M-18183-C strut mounts
BMR upper with mount and lower UCAs
Done!

Bang for the buck, not worried about stance....that's the winning combo.

*you may even get by with stock struts/shocks, but I'd prefer Strange for dialing in.

I would do Viking double adjustables and some BMR springs. that with lower and upper control arms

Not really a need for springs if he isn't worried about stance. Especially since he would be required to buy more suspension parts. Stock springs have been proved very effective on the strip.

QA1's and cobra jet springs?

I don't find "bang for the buck" in anything QA1 built.

 

[Quesplosive]

The setup in my sig works great for me. I basically followed the getting hooked setup in a 5.0 mag article. Don't think they had the cobra jet springs though. I have the drag springs going on once I can start working on my car again.

 

[Eric@jpc]

QA1's and cobra jet springs?

Thats a good start setup!!

I would do the 2010 CJ springs so your not a full on Jeep wheel gap

Then QA1s are pretty legit for rear shocks we just went direct with viking as well. They seem like a great alternative to the Qa1 for good prices.

Id also look in to a solid upper like ours ( hint hint )
last but not least BMR lowers with Relocation brackets

 

[D.T.R]

Thats a good start setup!!

I would do the 2010 CJ springs so your not a full on Jeep wheel gap

Then QA1s are pretty legit for rear shocks we just went direct with viking as well. They seem like a great alternative to the Qa1 for good prices.

Id also look in to a solid upper like ours ( hint hint )
last but not least BMR lowers with Relocation brackets

How much money are we talking about on all that stuff you listed?

 

[debit_free_2010]

How much money are we talking about on all that stuff you listed?

The QA1's are oil filled so probably not a good choice for a street car. Price wise they cost more than gas filled shocks.

 

[Eric@jpc]

QA1's and cobra jet springs?

How much money are we talking about on all that stuff you listed?

PM coming :beer:

 

[Bud]

Auto car...I wouldn't change a thing at first. People have knocked down solid 60's on 100% stock suspension. I'd go make some passes first and see how it goes before spending any money.

 

[D.T.R]

^ most likely will sir.

 

[BMR Tech]

Good responses in here.

I like the Strange Struts and shocks. We have been using them on our 2011 GT Auto car for over 3 years now, and have had VERY good luck with them.

For the rears, I really like the Viking Performance Double Adjustables. I personally, and my customers....are having excellent luck with their rear DA Shocks. They will be releasing a DA Front Strut shortly for the S197 as well; those should be excellent too.

One thing that I would like to point out, is that LOWERING the car is actually a great idea for a drag racer. In the past, on a '79-'04....not so much. The S197 owners are blessed with all of the companies offering UCA and LCA components to dial in the Instant Center and Anti-Squat settings....which on these cars is the MOST crucial aspect in getting the car to hook, other than tires. So, anyways.....I really like these cars to be lowered because they tend to offer slightly better AS/IC options, with the offerings available in the market, when they are lowered in the 1" - 1.75" range. One of the best performing "settings" on these cars is, the car lowered about 1.50"....with the UCA in the stock location and the LCA mounted 3" lower than factory. Whent he car is stock ride-height, the best combo will be the UCA mounted 1" down, and the LCA at the stock angle. When you compare the data on these completely different set-ups, the numbers favor the lowered car.

Nonetheless....acquiring the BMR-CAB005 (Relocation Brackets) and the BMR-UCM002 (Upper Mount) is one heck of a start, when trying to promote traction for your S197, regardless of any other modification.

 

[poof100]

Good responses in here.

I like the Strange Struts and shocks. We have been using them on our 2011 GT Auto car for over 3 years now, and have had VERY good luck with them.

For the rears, I really like the Viking Performance Double Adjustables. I personally, and my customers....are having excellent luck with their rear DA Shocks. They will be releasing a DA Front Strut shortly for the S197 as well; those should be excellent too.

One thing that I would like to point out, is that LOWERING the car is actually a great idea for a drag racer. In the past, on a '79-'04....not so much. The S197 owners are blessed with all of the companies offering UCA and LCA components to dial in the Instant Center and Anti-Squat settings....which on these cars is the MOST crucial aspect in getting the car to hook, other than tires. So, anyways.....I really like these cars to be lowered because they tend to offer slightly better AS/IC options, with the offerings available in the market, when they are lowered in the 1" - 1.75" range. One of the best performing "settings" on these cars is, the car lowered about 1.50"....with the UCA in the stock location and the LCA mounted 3" lower than factory. Whent he car is stock ride-height, the best combo will be the UCA mounted 1" down, and the LCA at the stock angle. When you compare the data on these completely different set-ups, the numbers favor the lowered car.

Nonetheless....acquiring the BMR-CAB005 (Relocation Brackets) and the BMR-UCM002 (Upper Mount) is one heck of a start, when trying to promote traction for your S197, regardless of any other modification.

Good info here! I'm running your BMR Relo brackets and the BMR Upper mount with JPC's UCA. Nice products you guys are putting out!

 

[Deespeed99]

Good responses in here.

I like the Strange Struts and shocks. We have been using them on our 2011 GT Auto car for over 3 years now, and have had VERY good luck with them.

For the rears, I really like the Viking Performance Double Adjustables. I personally, and my customers....are having excellent luck with their rear DA Shocks. They will be releasing a DA Front Strut shortly for the S197 as well; those should be excellent too.

One thing that I would like to point out, is that LOWERING the car is actually a great idea for a drag racer. In the past, on a '79-'04....not so much. The S197 owners are blessed with all of the companies offering UCA and LCA components to dial in the Instant Center and Anti-Squat settings....which on these cars is the MOST crucial aspect in getting the car to hook, other than tires. So, anyways.....I really like these cars to be lowered because they tend to offer slightly better AS/IC options, with the offerings available in the market, when they are lowered in the 1" - 1.75" range. One of the best performing "settings" on these cars is, the car lowered about 1.50"....with the UCA in the stock location and the LCA mounted 3" lower than factory. Whent he car is stock ride-height, the best combo will be the UCA mounted 1" down, and the LCA at the stock angle. When you compare the data on these completely different set-ups, the numbers favor the lowered car.

Nonetheless....acquiring the BMR-CAB005 (Relocation Brackets) and the BMR-UCM002 (Upper Mount) is one heck of a start, when trying to promote traction for your S197, regardless of any other modification.

What AS % do these cars perform best at? 130? Also with optimum settings have you seen sub 1.3 60's?

 

[D.T.R]

I'll be happy with a 1.5 60ft to be honest LOL

 

[BMR Tech]

Good info here! I'm running your BMR Relo brackets and the BMR Upper mount with JPC's UCA. Nice products you guys are putting out!

Thanks!

What AS % do these cars perform best at? 130? Also with optimum settings have you seen sub 1.3 60's?

It really depends on complimenting mods, and factors. Track prep, for example....can make a world of difference. Tire compound, transmission type....the list goes on forever.

That being said, I typically like to see the AS% in the 105-115% range, using the baseline-suspension calculator.

 

[Deespeed99]

Thanks!



It really depends on complimenting mods, and factors. Track prep, for example....can make a world of difference. Tire compound, transmission type....the list goes on forever.

That being said, I typically like to see the AS% in the 105-115% range, using the baseline-suspension calculator.

You are right. I didnt provide enough info. On highly modded cars (upwards of 800+hp) have you seen sub 1.3's?that calculator has been my saving grace with friends cars lol. Thank you for the basic numbers to aim for.