Concealed-carry permit holder shot and killed while reaching for wallet
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and this is why prosecutors should be going after the truth and not convictions..
Way to generalize...
[video=youtube;AhLmjUZB5V0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhLmjUZB5V0[/video]
Not only did he not get shot, the cop shook his hand.
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This is why all police should be suited with a body cam.
Not enough information available to say either side was at fault here.
Not enough information available to say either side was at fault here.
+1, I don't see how this is still an issue. Don't tell me it's money, that's BS. If you can equip a cop with a vehicle, you can find a way to buy a bodycam. (I am not directing this at you venom)
She can't quite get out of the car, since there is someone with an itchy trigger finger outside, that apparently shoots anything that moves.
If that's the excuse, they need to get them lower cost vehicles, then. Gotta break even somehow.
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Lets not let this turn into a racial debate like it usually does please.
Agreed.
I am curious to know which news outlets are pushing this the most. Weird how right after Hillary gets off in a VERY controversial way the media starts pushing this race-baiting BS to turn the heads of the sheep. I wonder if there is any correlation.
I would like to know a few things.
1) Why was the girl held all night against her will by the police.
2) Further "investigation" has now determined that the "broken tail light' was not broken and works properly. So the officer that committed the murder lied about the initial reason for the stop.
3) Why was the deceased's mother refused permission to see her son at the hospital? He doesn't belong to the police. He is her son.
Maybe having a bullet resistant car isn't such a stupid expense after all.
1) Why was the girl held all night against her will by the police.
2) Further "investigation" has now determined that the "broken tail light' was not broken and works properly. So the officer that committed the murder lied about the initial reason for the stop.
3) Why was the deceased's mother refused permission to see her son at the hospital? He doesn't belong to the police. He is her son.
Maybe having a bullet resistant car isn't such a stupid expense after all.
I believe in the 2A and right to bear arms etc and have my CT carry permit. I do not carry a gun because of this probable scenario and the events that most likely unfolded. The risk return trade-off is just not worth it. Statically speaking I am more likely to get pulled over for a speeding ticket and while reaching for my insurance and reg the LEO notices something sticking out and a hand nearby….. bam! I am dead. Not worth it for .01% million chance I need to defend myself.
I would have to see some info on the amount of times a CCW holder was shot in a traffic stop before I believe it's more likely for it to happen than a mugging/assault.
NRA needs to stand behind Castillo IF the claims offered so far are true. Guy was a lawful carrier of a firearm and was murdered. Again, IF the narrative told so far is true.
What's even worse is he just *said* that he had a gun and a CCW. He never held or brandished his weapon.
See this a I cant agree... and most military personnel would argue that we are far better trained then to be just jumpy.. not saying that your implying that this is how the military operates, but when you say militarized police that comes down to equipment and to some degree tactics which is usually relegated to SWAT and special units of sorts not the standard working the daily grind officer. so the correlation here is a little off if you ask me. What this comes down to is horrible and more than likely lackadaisical training, as well as something internally wrong with the officer. Jobs like these you need to be able to read people, understand your surroundings, treat everyone with respect but have a plan to protect yourself. Bottom line is this was a bad and completely unjustified shooting.... straight up murder.
You want to know what is ironic?
Because of the BLM movement, I now just assume that every cop killing is justified until I see damning evidence and proof that supports the contrary. They have come to the defense of so many people that were justly shot, that I now just assume they were probably shot for good reason.
I am not saying that is what happened here, but I am merely stating a real life example of how the BLM movement affects me personally. A movement that is purportedly aimed at helping minorities has done nothing but hurt them IMO.
Because of the BLM movement, I now just assume that every cop killing is justified until I see damning evidence and proof that supports the contrary. They have come to the defense of so many people that were justly shot, that I now just assume they were probably shot for good reason.
I am not saying that is what happened here, but I am merely stating a real life example of how the BLM movement affects me personally. A movement that is purportedly aimed at helping minorities has done nothing but hurt them IMO.
When I took my CCW classes, given by county cops, they told us to never use the word "gun" during an interaction with police. They explained to the class that this is a trigger word and would likely escalate the situation. They advised us to use "firearm" or "weapon" instead.
In IL we aren't obligated to tell police we are a CCW holder carrying a weapon unless they ask. I haven't crossed that bridge yet (having an interaction with a cop while carrying) however communication will be priority so no one misunderstands what is happening and a tragic mistake is made.
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