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2011 Mustang GT vs. 2003 Mach 1

Discussion in 'Road Kill Drive-Thru' started by z28th1s, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. 03COBRA-88

    03COBRA-88 Active Member Established Member

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    I guess an 03/04 cobra with ported blower or a twin screw will shut the 5.0 guys pie holes



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  2. Tampa03cobra

    Tampa03cobra Frivolous Lawsuiter Established Member

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    Non-Forged internals + high compression = Your going to be asking the terminator guy for a ride home.


    No sense in playing the "if it gets what mod when" game, no one can win that argument lol.
     
  3. DarkMach1

    DarkMach1 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    The '11 5.0s internals are not weak like the previous s197 internals.


    I do hate to see how some SVT owners feel like their ***** are 3 inches larger because they have a cobra on their fender, c'mon guys, leave that cockiness for bowtie owners.
     
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  4. NiteMareGT

    NiteMareGT Master Of Puppets Established Member

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    Howsa 'bout a 2.3 L Whipple @ 7 psi making over 600 horsepower on stock internals ?

    OVER 600 WITH JUST 7 PSI...

    It's happening as I type... C'mon... Don't hate, bothers... We're all Mustang family here...

    I KNOW you guys have to be tickled to see FORD release a Mustang with over 400 HP... ALL MOTOR...
     
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  5. CobraRed01

    CobraRed01 CornerCarvinCravin Established Member

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  6. 03COBRA-88

    03COBRA-88 Active Member Established Member

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    That 600hp your talking about is at the crank. So 500rwhp + is where the bottom end reaches its limit.


    The 5.0L should make around 600hp @ 7psi which is the maximum boost level recommended for the stock bottom end.

    That is what they are saying in this article

    2.3L Whipple Supercharger Kit for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT | Miscellaneous Blog & Discussions at 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords Magazine
     
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  7. NiteMareGT

    NiteMareGT Master Of Puppets Established Member

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    Did I ever say anything about what it could or couldn't take with stock internals?

    My post was dedicated to the Coyote haters talking about if we did this, or that... etc... it would shut your pie holes.

    Well hell, if I bungy corded a Sputnik rocket to the hood of the 5.0 it would shut yer pie holes.:loser: If if's and but's were candy and nuts...

    To get over 600 HP with just 7 psi is phenomenal !! And just so you know, I do realize this 600 plus HP gain was at the motor...I never said anything about WHP...

    Besides... Nothing a little call to Diamond Pistons wouldn't solve !!

    POWERTRAIN AND CHASSIS
    ENGINE V-8
    Type 5.0L 4V Ti-VCT V-8
    Manufacturing location Essex Engine, Windsor, Ontario
    Configuration Aluminum block and heads
    Intake manifold Composite shell-welded with runner pack
    Exhaust manifold Stainless steel tubular headers
    Redline 7,000 rpm
    Valvetrain DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, variable intake, variable camshaft timing
    Valve diameter/lift (mm) Intake: 37/12; Exhaust: 31/11
    Ti-VCT operating range 50 degrees for both intake and exhaust
    Pistons Cast aluminum:nonono:
    Connecting rods Forged steel
    Ignition High-energy coil-on-plug
    Bore x stroke 3.63 in x 3.65 in/92.2 mm x 92.7 mm
    Displacement 302 cu. in./4,951 cc
    Compression ratio 11.0:1 (est.)
    Engine control system PCM
    Horsepower 412 @ 6,500 rpm (est.)
    Horsepower per liter 82.4
    Torque 390 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm (est.)
    Recommended fuel 91 octane (unleaded 87 octane minimum)
    Fuel capacity 16 gallons
    Fuel delivery Sequential mechanical returnless
    Oil capacity 8 quarts with filter (10,000-mile service interval)
     
  8. 01trublue cobra

    01trublue cobra New Member Established Member

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    +1 The mach was basically stock with no tune and you had exhaust and a tune. You basically come with shortie headers and 2.5 inch mandrel bent exhaust vs his crimped, 2.25 inch, and 4-cats exhaust.
     
  9. Phallen

    Phallen Trackday Junkie Established Member

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    Jesus, are you guys still talking about this?!

    BOTH cars are awesome! But yes, time does go on and we should all be celebrating the fact that we can buy new a great car like the '11 GT.

    OP's story is very believeable and realistic, I expected as much.


    ps - I'm waiting for a Bullitt edition GT/Boss. Love that color, love that simpleness of mods only in the right places.
     
  10. MACHXLR8

    MACHXLR8 Third Member Established Member

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    ++1

    Dude..I am gald someone said that. I was not going to say it because than I would be considered a hater of the new GT. (which I am Not:bowdown:) Anyone who owns a MACH 1 know that it came pretty plugged up from the factory. That damn POS 4-cat system was put on there just to squeeze that car through the emmissions approval.
    I would hope that all the 2011 GT owners do not use this one particular race to get cocky with all MACH 1s. Remember, the MACH 1 has been around since 03. This means that people already have had lots of time to mod this car..... some pretty intensly. I am not saying that a full bolt-on MACH will take you by multiple cars, but if driven right, will run right beside you. :coolman:
     
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  11. 03COBRA-88

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    Thats fine man. I'm not a coyote hater. I was just responding to a commment above. I can't wait to see what this 5.0 does with some more mods+ a supercharger :rockon:
     
  12. Mach Boy

    Mach Boy New Member Established Member

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    Forget the S/C. I want to see what these things can do with cams, P&P heads/intake, and all the supporting mods all N/A.
     
  13. z28th1s

    z28th1s The 5.0 is Back!!! Established Member

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  14. 5 ltr. beater

    5 ltr. beater ....in spacers we trust Established Member

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    i thought all factory mustang GT/MACH/CObra exhausts were all POS?? did Ford go out of its way to make the 2011 5.0's more free flowing than the rest of it's prevous pony's?
     
  15. mgmustang1

    mgmustang1 Active Member Established Member

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    Look out camaro's. 422hp is great for a n/a 5.0
     
  16. USMarksman91

    USMarksman91 Banned

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    This is some thread, i agree that machs and gt's are closer than machs and cobras. From personally seeing races of them myself. Their not A LOT closer, usually i see cobras inhale machs, like its nothing, and machs take gt's by 2-3 car lengths but then continue to pull real hard. Im so glad you made that much power on the dyno z28th1s! excellent numbers, finally ford put the right motor in a GT. :)
     
  17. BM1

    BM1 New Member Established Member

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    Edit - Just realized the guy above me bumped an old thread...
     
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  18. Riddla

    Riddla IT will surprise you Established Member

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    How so? From a roll I believe the 5.0 will hold the advantage. No heat soak, better gearing and a power biased top end. Maybe the cobra will hang on the first run then it will start to fall back

    Plus the internals are not weak and they dont need as much boost.

    Sent with My Massive Johnson
     
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  19. ChiSVT

    ChiSVT Currently SVTless Established Member

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    It's closer than most would think.

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    Both cars have bolt-ons, Cobra is pullied.
     
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  20. S8ER01Z

    S8ER01Z New Member Established Member

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    In my defense....
    08-31-2010, 04:54 PM * #71 (permalink)

    At the time track times were being done in the summer heat without the fall DA that brings sick times. Fastest runs at the time where high 12s around 110mph if memory serves. A lot changed in the past 9 months. I even thought I would be a close race with one back then... LoL.
     
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