CC brakes would be great for the track, but not so great for the street. From what I hear they are actually fairly noisy/squeaky for daily driving duty and really need some heat (lots of hard braking) to work at their best. Ford said this car is for driving the back roads during the week and track toy on some weekends. I'm hoping an "R" model takes that spot though.
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CC brakes would be great for the track, but not so great for the street. From what I hear they are actually fairly noisy/squeaky for daily driving duty and really need some heat (lots of hard braking) to work at their best. Ford said this car is for driving the back roads during the week and track toy on some weekends. I'm hoping an "R" model takes that spot though.
I was probably too generous, didn't realize the new ones were running so slow. I revise to a little better than your estimate, but still a slow 117ish at 12.2 in the 1/4 on street tires.
I really don't want to spend a grand per rotor...
Agreed. I'm excited as hell about this car. But for all those that are disappointed, don't get to upset. There will be a halo model coming for the horsepower hungry folks. Ford is not done yet.
I'd like to see what hellion can do with one of these. Not alot of boost( although I believe it can take it) but enough to offer a nice bump in power. If the top dog is too expensive then I will probably be all over this in a couple of years when the funds are right.
What did the boss run? The m3/m4 has similar Torque ans less HP and there are stock ones running in the 11s. They weigh ~3500 lbs
GM has been doing it for years with the 1LE, ZL1, and Z28. Ford is playing follow the leader in a well rounded car.
I do think this is the best looking S550 by far. Depending on price I may even consider one. To me this car will best the 1LE and fall short of the track oriented Z28. I hope pricing stays in the $50K's.
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It's common for low 12 high 11's out of a stock Boss, but also factor in they weighed less than the S550 platform. With the bigger brakes, wider wheels and tires, wider body, electronics, etc, i don't see the GT350 weighing less than a new GT, if not a little heavier. The Boss was under 3650lbs. Gearing and traction are a big part of the 1/4 time also. Ford has always put undersized tires on the mustang.
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I SAID SHOWROOM N/A.. well my main point was exactly what alot of folks keep doing.. comparing it to GT500. different car for different type of buyer. NA vs S/C powerplants.
I myself still prefer S/C'd mustangs over NA because i am a TQ junkie but i dont see how any true Ford fan can put this car down in any way (at least until the pricing is announced)
Right, but with a sequential trans which is getting all the credit.
GM The leader..... and you dub Camaro's ? No.
The only thing cutting edge in the GM brand is the Corvette.
COPO came AFTER The Cobra Jet
1LE came AFTER the Boss
ZL1 came AFTER the GT500
z/28 was GM's 10 year late response to Ford Building a dedicated track car in the 2000 Cobra R.
Now with the new GT350 ford is going to be somewhat close in handling (Probaly a few seconds slower on track times) and it still have Daily Creature comforts for 15k less than the Z/28 which is essentially a donor body for leftover LS7's
GM has copy catted Ford since the beginning. The only thing I respect GM for is having a 2 seater sports car for all these years, even though until early 2000's they were a joke.
Oh and to those that think the GT350 is going to out straight line a 13/14 GT500. Seriously guys ?! C'mon now! if the gt500 spins it's ass off is the only way that happens.
I think they'd be a good race for a full bolt on N/A e85 CJ Coyote
The only thing cutting edge in the GM brand is the Corvette.
COPO came AFTER The Cobra Jet
1LE came AFTER the Boss
ZL1 came AFTER the GT500
z/28 was GM's 10 year late response to Ford Building a dedicated track car in the 2000 Cobra R.
Now with the new GT350 ford is going to be somewhat close in handling (Probaly a few seconds slower on track times) and it still have Daily Creature comforts for 15k less than the Z/28 which is essentially a donor body for leftover LS7's
GM has copy catted Ford since the beginning. The only thing I respect GM for is having a 2 seater sports car for all these years, even though until early 2000's they were a joke.
Oh and to those that think the GT350 is going to out straight line a 13/14 GT500. Seriously guys ?! C'mon now! if the gt500 spins it's ass off is the only way that happens.
I think they'd be a good race for a full bolt on N/A e85 CJ Coyote
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MT went 12.3 @ 116 mph in a 2012 Boss 302.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1102_2012_ford_mustang_boss_302_test/viewall.html
Again, magazine times, but MT to MT. They just went 12.8 @ 112 in a new Mustang GT.
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What! You're high.
A loaded '15 Premium GT is over 45K. I don't see this car being any less expensive than the '13/'14 GT500. I wouldn't mind being wrong though.
I think it's going to make the Boss look slow.
Straightline they'll probably be similar if the GT350 ends up weighing close to what a '15 GT weighs.
On track the GT350 should easily be faster. It'll have more grip, IRS, far better brakes, etc..
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Yeah, I should have said "around a track". From the little info we have it doesn't seem to be a quarter mile car at all, and I'm OK with that.
Very very impressed with what Ford is doing here. I guarantee that the R&D done for the 5.2l engine will NOT be used strictly for the GT350. I think it will be one of the first in a long line of absolutely WICKED Ford Shelby/SVT mustangs.
Just remember, this is 500+ horsepower NATURALLY ASPIRATED. Lexus, for all its ties to Yamaha and Yamaha engineered heads for its 5.0L in the RC-F, got a max of 465 hp out of it. And here Ford got 500+? Thats simply incredible, and just a start for what the tuners of the world will undoubtedly do with this car. I cant imagine Ford not building any overhead into the engine. My guess is the R version of this car will be over 550+. Very VERY good numbers for NA AND 5 year 60,000 mile standard Ford powertrain warranty!
This car IS NOT supposed to go head to head with the 13-14 GT500s. This car's business is around a road course. My gut says the 1/4 mile Halo car is coming. The sooner the better!
While Ill be in the market for a used 2011-2012 GT500 myself, THIS version of the S550 is stunning. Literally changes my view on how I feel about the LOOK of the S550. Subtle changes they may be, they seriously give the GT350 a new attitude look and I like it!
Proud to be a Ford guy, simply giddy for the future of Ford Racing, and SVT Shelby Mustangs!
Just remember, this is 500+ horsepower NATURALLY ASPIRATED. Lexus, for all its ties to Yamaha and Yamaha engineered heads for its 5.0L in the RC-F, got a max of 465 hp out of it. And here Ford got 500+? Thats simply incredible, and just a start for what the tuners of the world will undoubtedly do with this car. I cant imagine Ford not building any overhead into the engine. My guess is the R version of this car will be over 550+. Very VERY good numbers for NA AND 5 year 60,000 mile standard Ford powertrain warranty!
This car IS NOT supposed to go head to head with the 13-14 GT500s. This car's business is around a road course. My gut says the 1/4 mile Halo car is coming. The sooner the better!
While Ill be in the market for a used 2011-2012 GT500 myself, THIS version of the S550 is stunning. Literally changes my view on how I feel about the LOOK of the S550. Subtle changes they may be, they seriously give the GT350 a new attitude look and I like it!
Proud to be a Ford guy, simply giddy for the future of Ford Racing, and SVT Shelby Mustangs!
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Regarding the M4 comparison, they've been dynoing low 400's rwhp so while they're rated at 425 HP, they are probably really making an actual crank HP of maybe 475ish.
The M4 is the car I'll be gauging the GT350 against, and so far I favor the Ford MUCH more! Also, try and find an M4 for less than 74k anywhere. Dealers don't carry base models early on in the model role out these days, or so I've noticed and been told....
The M4 is the car I'll be gauging the GT350 against, and so far I favor the Ford MUCH more! Also, try and find an M4 for less than 74k anywhere. Dealers don't carry base models early on in the model role out these days, or so I've noticed and been told....
I don't think it will beat the 500 in the 1/4 but i believe it will be more competitive than people are willing to admit. The Gt500 is fast on paper but has always under performed for the amount of power it has. Simply put, its a overpowered car with more weight in the front than an f-150 4door, pizza cutter sized rear tires and horrible clutch protection software. This is why other vehicles do more with less power.
All the chest beating about having 662hp and 200mph has gotten old. :sleeping: Its about time ford came out with all around performance vehicle for the 21st century.
If the gt350 matches the C7 price (55-60k starting range); then the track performance should match or surpass the C7 too IMO.
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