I could not disagree more. Dopers like to fight as well, especially when you mix it with alcohol.
Texas Marijuana Penalties
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I could not disagree more. Dopers like to fight as well, especially when you mix it with alcohol.
Violent offenders belong in jail not your every day non violent teenager pothead, although I dont agree with non medicinal use. It is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars to send every kid to jail for a joint. The war on drugs is one of the biggest failures and waste of money Law Enforcement has ever seen in this country. It will be decriminalized quicker than you think.
There are very few substances in their natural form that even come close to the medicinal value of cannabis. The fact of the matter is the big pharmaceuticals cant patent a plant and have far to much political pull.
It could potentially take away millions upon millions of dollars from their big ticket drugs. I.E cancer meds, pain meds, antianxiety meds, depression meds. The list goes on.
Go tell a cancer patient they belong in jail because they choose to medicate with something that alleviates the pain and helps sustain a normal appetite. Great logic .
And no I dont personally choose to use it and never would, but i have seen quality of life improvements in very close family friends that were terminally ill. The benefits far outweigh the negative stigma people like yourself have attached to it.
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They're not the ones in jail. This is what tickets are for
I can't off the top of my head think of a combative patient I had that wasn't under the influence of alcohol or other drugs, didn't have underlying psych issues, or believe they were a 'gangster' to begin with.
Okay I am hearing you marijuana advocates are saying and you will never-ever get me to agree with your line of thinking!
In my book, that crap is not good for nothing. I don't care what you say about. You bring that crap into my territory and I will introduce you to the cross bar hotel!
In my book, that crap is not good for nothing. I don't care what you say about. You bring that crap into my territory and I will introduce you to the cross bar hotel!
How bout those cancer patients that cant eat until they light up a joint. Are they worthless pieces of shit too?
Understand that I must follow the letter of the law. So (IF) there is a medicinal exemption then I have no choice but to follow it. However, I still do not have to agree with it.
So you would arrest a cancer patient if you legally could?
What if you could arrest someone for taking scripted Vicodin for their back pain? Or Xanax for their depression? Just curious for the sake of argument.
If they are driving while on that shit you're damn skippy that they should be arrested.
Brah, I'm in agreement with your point regarding using the crap for LEGITIMATE medicinal purposes, whatever. But I also agree with Iceman, a large percentage of the dopeheads I know, or have known, are uttelry useless individuals. Most of the one's I knew growing up didn't make much of themselves. That's not stigma, that's reality I have witnessed with my own eyes. Two of the biggest pro dope guys I knew growing up are a prime example, one is 30 years old and cannot hold down a job for more than 90 days at time and lives with his mother, and the other will be writing letters home for the next 20 years with ''sent from a correctional facility'' stamped on them.
As for the teenage potheads, sure they are not out carjacking grandma at the walmart to fund another bag, but they sure aren't living up to their potential either. I'll be strait up, I think most people that use or abuse any substances including pot are weak and feeble minded, totally lacking any sort of balls whatsoever. I think it is a selfishly weak minded activity.
I'm glad there is people like Iceman out there locking up morons with dope, that is one less lowlife out there influencing any young impressionable minds. The dumbing down of America continues....
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He already said it, he doesn't agree with it. And that's what I'm curious about. Why does he WANT to arrest someone that is using this drug legally to alleviate (at least a bit) the hell they're going through? It makes zero sense to me, and I have a feeling he doesn't even know why either.
Agreed, if they are impaired.
I had a patient a few years ago who started Paxil, an antidepressant, while going through a divorce. Long story short, he was charged with impaired driving which was the result of excessive drowsiness from the medication. It was his responsibility to ensure he was not impaired before driving. And yes we advise patients who start CNS depressing medications on these issues.
Up here, while not decriminalized, pot in small amounts is usually not actively policed. Yes it will be confiscated, but will not result in a charge. The result is a large increase across all age groups in the blatant use while out in public. On a daily basis you encounter these individuals who are literally baked.
I generally have a "live and let live" attitude but it stops when someone is out and about (waits for Canadian jokes) putting my family and others at risk due to their dumbass decisions. If you want to blaze out do it at home! Public intoxication has serious consequences, which is likely the reason the Leos responding feel so strongly. I have friends in the RCMP and they feel much the same way. The number of people they stop for smoking and driving probably rivals those stopped for drinking and driving...
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Oh I have made numerous arrests for folks in possession (medicinal) marijuana throughout the years. Texas does not recognize that crap for any purpose.
Like WOT 88, described I too have had friends and acquaintances who had a tremendous amount of talent in athletics only to use that crap and lose their willingness to use it. It's like they went brain dead.
So yes, joes215 I know exactly why and yes I will continue to do my job whether it's scripts or whatever. That's a promise!
No they shouldnt and in most cases wouldnt. If the medication is taken longterm, properly, and at the right dosage you shouldnt be able to tell. A LEO does not have the right to know what medicine you take if it does not openly impair you. Its not illegal one bit to drive while on those medications. Its only illegal to drive if it impairs you to the point where you cant.
Most prescriptions like the ones mentioned say "Do not drive or operate heavy machinery untill you know how (fill in the blank) affects you."
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Im sorry but it is a stigma, for every 2 halfbaked morons walking around theres a successfull individual that chooses to use cannabis in moderation.
The reality is that its alot more common in most social circles in this day and age than thought.
Edit: I dont want to sound like im pro cannabis either, as that is not my intention. I just understand that it can be used recreationally in a responsible way no different than having a beer. I may not agree with recreational use personally,but I am certainly pro choice when it comes to the matter.
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Just want to throw this out there.
I arrested 8 people last year for being in possession of a firearm illegally that were actively using marijuana or selling it when i made first contact. Two of which put up tremendous fights after they were disarmed. Under influence of nothing but marijuana. In possession of no other drug than marijuana.
Another one of those persons, (a 21 year old college student) after being released on bond. Was suspected of committing 6 different armed robberies of citizens simply walking home from work or school. He was subsequently abducted, shot and killed in another city over a marijuana debt.
But they are all just mellow harmless freebirds. :bored:
I arrested 8 people last year for being in possession of a firearm illegally that were actively using marijuana or selling it when i made first contact. Two of which put up tremendous fights after they were disarmed. Under influence of nothing but marijuana. In possession of no other drug than marijuana.
Another one of those persons, (a 21 year old college student) after being released on bond. Was suspected of committing 6 different armed robberies of citizens simply walking home from work or school. He was subsequently abducted, shot and killed in another city over a marijuana debt.
But they are all just mellow harmless freebirds. :bored:
I think its situations like this that help reinforce the negative stigma. Just for arguements sake. Thats similar to saying most of the CDV arrests I made last year had an individual under the influence of alcohol.(while most likely true) This doesnt mean we should assume that the majority of people who choose to drink commit acts of domestic violence.
Was the alcohol a contributing factor ? sure, but was it responsible soley ? I dont personally think so.
Now in all seriousness do you think the marijuana was the sole reason behind the firearm possesion and resisting ? or just a factor in the lifestyle that these guys chose that led to situations you encountered with them ?
I think its a cop out ( no pun intended) to place the blame on the substance all of time when the person is the majority of the problem.
So selling a illegal substance is dangerous and needs firearms for protection and might fight with the cops because they are getting arrested. The black market not the marijuana.
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It's amazing the type of correlations people will try to create just to justify their beliefs. Did you also know that most convicted murders drink milk within 7 days of committing their crimes? I mean, do we really even know what's in that stuff? Pretty crazy when you think about it.
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