lol ok budd
GT is a hell of a car that came out. Should push a lot of companies to step up to the plate:thumbsup:
$63,000 euro trash gets trashed
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lol ok budd
GT is a hell of a car that came out. Should push a lot of companies to step up to the plate:thumbsup:
I guess because you say so it must be true...whatever
The car weighs approximately 3500, has 333 HP and a torque rating in the mid 200's.
How would that car, which is just barely as fast as a 2000 C5 off the line, keep up with the C5 through the entire run, considering the torque of the 2000 C5, similar gearing, and a disadvanatage of carrying 300 more pounds. How???
How many other 3500 pound cars with 333HP and 250 tq do the 1/4 in the 12's?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Sorry man, but Im really just getting sick of rediculous claims, because you read it in a magazine.
Also this car puts out at 150 mph, top speed. This car is not running the 1/4 in 12's.
How would that car, which is just barely as fast as a 2000 C5 off the line, keep up with the C5 through the entire run, considering the torque of the 2000 C5, similar gearing, and a disadvanatage of carrying 300 more pounds. How???
How many other 3500 pound cars with 333HP and 250 tq do the 1/4 in the 12's?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Sorry man, but Im really just getting sick of rediculous claims, because you read it in a magazine.
Also this car puts out at 150 mph, top speed. This car is not running the 1/4 in 12's.
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german ENGINEERING is the answer
the old E36 M3 had only 240 BHP and could easily click off low 14's
have you seen the new benz's running low 12's trapping 117 mph stock?!:rockon:
the old E36 M3 had only 240 BHP and could easily click off low 14's
have you seen the new benz's running low 12's trapping 117 mph stock?!:rockon:
Your right, your right, all the things I've heard and READ about it must be wrong, because you are the expert...............why are we argueing about this, lets just agree to disagree and move on, I have more important things to do, like.....well I don't know, but there must be something.:beer:
Agree to disagree.:beer:
I find it hard to believe that was done at the slip-n-slide, unless it was one of those rare days they actually put half a drop of VHT down or he had slicks.
i think he was running BFG muds...special for cbad!
To get across the baja1000 from the gate to the track maybe.;-)
hehe
Here are the fastest "bone stock" E46 M3 1/4 times:
6-spd: 12.72 @ 106.8 mph (this has been confirmed)
SMG: 13.1 secs
The 12.72 run was made by a guy named Mathews on M3Forum.com, who happens to be an excellent driver and regularly breaks into the 12s with his stock 6-speed E46 M3. Here is a video of him running 12.77 secs with a 1.81 60' time. I am aware that you cannot see the ET in the video, so you'll just have to trust me. He launched at 4300 RPMs and powershifted.
Before you all ask, this was with stock rubber and no weight reduction. Everything was STOCK.
The SMG (sequential manual gearbox) model has trouble running as quickly because it does not allow the driver to vary launch RPM or slip the clutch.
So anyway guys, I'm not here to say that it's common for E46 M3s to run 12s. All I'm doing is passing along the facts. It's entirely possible to break into the 12s with a 6-speed E46 M3 and it has been done multiple times. The SMG, on the other hand, is a different story, and I'm not sure anyone has yet to break into the 12s with one.
Chris
6-spd: 12.72 @ 106.8 mph (this has been confirmed)
SMG: 13.1 secs
The 12.72 run was made by a guy named Mathews on M3Forum.com, who happens to be an excellent driver and regularly breaks into the 12s with his stock 6-speed E46 M3. Here is a video of him running 12.77 secs with a 1.81 60' time. I am aware that you cannot see the ET in the video, so you'll just have to trust me. He launched at 4300 RPMs and powershifted.
Before you all ask, this was with stock rubber and no weight reduction. Everything was STOCK.
The SMG (sequential manual gearbox) model has trouble running as quickly because it does not allow the driver to vary launch RPM or slip the clutch.
So anyway guys, I'm not here to say that it's common for E46 M3s to run 12s. All I'm doing is passing along the facts. It's entirely possible to break into the 12s with a 6-speed E46 M3 and it has been done multiple times. The SMG, on the other hand, is a different story, and I'm not sure anyone has yet to break into the 12s with one.
Chris
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wow didn't know this was going to start such a shit storm!
ok first of all to ubnstrck, the 500.00 comment was made to the kids right outside my window after scott said he would throw 20.00 on it...he was there, heard it and can confirm...
as for the eurotrash comment i call everything bmw, mercedes, volkswagen, saab, volvo, etc euro trash because that is all i see in scottsdale being driven by soccer moms...
i like the m3 and wouldn't bad mouth it at all, it is a very nice car but just not for me...
soooooooo anyways...was a good run, kinda...
and keep on going guys, gave me something to read for a lil bit!
ok first of all to ubnstrck, the 500.00 comment was made to the kids right outside my window after scott said he would throw 20.00 on it...he was there, heard it and can confirm...
as for the eurotrash comment i call everything bmw, mercedes, volkswagen, saab, volvo, etc euro trash because that is all i see in scottsdale being driven by soccer moms...
i like the m3 and wouldn't bad mouth it at all, it is a very nice car but just not for me...
soooooooo anyways...was a good run, kinda...
and keep on going guys, gave me something to read for a lil bit!
yea, i can confirm the $500 comment. i'm not sure how literal it was meant, but i know it was stated.
oh well, good runs, the M3 lost, end of story.
BUT the M3 is definitely a sickazz car and i would take one almost any day of the week over my 99 Cobra.
i guess both cars have their advantages. but as Zack (UBNSTRK) mentioned, this kid supposedly can't drive, and everyone says that about him. So maybe if you put a decent driver behind the wheel, it would have been a "little" closer, but still a lose. The only advantage this kid had, was the fact that he weighed 80lbs soaking wet.
oh well, good runs, the M3 lost, end of story.
BUT the M3 is definitely a sickazz car and i would take one almost any day of the week over my 99 Cobra.
i guess both cars have their advantages. but as Zack (UBNSTRK) mentioned, this kid supposedly can't drive, and everyone says that about him. So maybe if you put a decent driver behind the wheel, it would have been a "little" closer, but still a lose. The only advantage this kid had, was the fact that he weighed 80lbs soaking wet.
> have you seen the new benz's running low 12's trapping 117 mph stock?!
Those would be $80K+, 500HP Benz's. There's nothing terribly special about a 500HP car which runs low 12s, although it is certainly nice to have them available in a stock 4-door with a warranty. The 240 BHP M3s running high 14s makes sense - S2000s do the same thing.
Actually, the part about this whole story which confuses me is the "going sideways in 4th" part. Bald DRs or not, 400 ft/lbs isn't enough to lose it at 100 MPH; hell, 600 ft/lbs won't do that. 1000 ft/lbs will, at least on cold street tires. Did you hit water or something?
Those would be $80K+, 500HP Benz's. There's nothing terribly special about a 500HP car which runs low 12s, although it is certainly nice to have them available in a stock 4-door with a warranty. The 240 BHP M3s running high 14s makes sense - S2000s do the same thing.
Actually, the part about this whole story which confuses me is the "going sideways in 4th" part. Bald DRs or not, 400 ft/lbs isn't enough to lose it at 100 MPH; hell, 600 ft/lbs won't do that. 1000 ft/lbs will, at least on cold street tires. Did you hit water or something?
Treynor nice car, got to see it a couple weekends ago. I know your car runs 12's and then a helluva a lot more but,
M6 running 12's?
M6 running 12's?
true but what i was trying to say is HP isn't everything.
look at the old 55's clicking off low 13's in a stock auto car.
i think engineering has played a big part for bmw and mbz.
btw i said low 14's
actually his bigboat is more like mid 11's...@120:coolman:
I can guarantee that. It takes a special individual to throw an upgrade like that at a viper.
No dude, his benz runs 11.5s. His blown/nitrous Viper is just sick!
that car scares me
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