Was wondering that too. :??:
BBR...So frustrated with them... Time to vent!
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Was wondering that too. :??:
no I didnt drive your car , but BBR apparently did and it was not chattering for 100 miles after they used a product that contains friction modifier and works in 8.8 rears everyday...where was their mistake?
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Keep in mind these are "cross member" bolts.. Yes it will hang down, and you're going to know something is wrong when that comes loose
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I agree, I install an average of 4-5 gear sets a month and have NEVER had an issue with the Royal Purple w/FM only. I do keep ford FM on the shelf for use with coventional gear oil without FM.
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Dude how can you say that it was not chattering? I am not making this shit up. Op was there and had the same problem I had with the rear. Even ken asked me wtf that noise was when he drove my car to check the tune. BBR only drove my car 5 minutes after they did the rear end. The royal purple friction modifier is not enough. Stop sucking bbr balls dude. It seems like if they do something wrong you always find a way to lick their balls and blame what ever happens on the costumer. And you are not the only one.
Royal Purple works perfectly fine without adding modifier and that is fact , I have my car sitting in the garage and my old Fox Body that both work perfectly with RP diff oil. BBR used a product that is proven to work and test drove the car and it had no issues...I ask you again , where was their mistake?
I'm not nutswinging buddy it just seems like your Butthurt and looking for someplace to pile on. I have not weighed in on either side of this discussion between the OP and BBR , but what you are saying about BBR being wrong for using RP oil without using additional modifier is nonsense and I will call you out on it.:beer:
You are walking a fine line with the insults.
You may want to slow the roll a bit.
Matter of fact, you 2 can take it to the royal purple thread.
Here's my thing.
Motor popped? Well I'll buy that although damage pics would be nice.
Tranny? I have a hard time with.
First post in this thread,
On 1/26/13
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...54/909013-made-track-new-pb.html#post12669522
Then,
On 4/4/13 you made this thread,
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...6427-fml-automatic-transmission-problems.html
Post 17,
On 3/22/13 you had made this thread,
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...3160-2012-automatic-transmission-problem.html
Post 3 after being asked what tune,
However, That post was edited on 4/4/13 about an hour after the new thread on 4/4 was started.
This is the original post on 3/22/13
Then when called on it you admit to lying to get a honest answer?
You have more edited post than anyone else I know here but we are to believe you 100%?
Why don't you go read rule #7 of the SVTP rules.
Motor popped? Well I'll buy that although damage pics would be nice.
Tranny? I have a hard time with.
First post in this thread,
On 1/26/13
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...54/909013-made-track-new-pb.html#post12669522
Then,
On 4/4/13 you made this thread,
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...6427-fml-automatic-transmission-problems.html
Post 17,
On 3/22/13 you had made this thread,
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...3160-2012-automatic-transmission-problem.html
Post 3 after being asked what tune,
However, That post was edited on 4/4/13 about an hour after the new thread on 4/4 was started.
This is the original post on 3/22/13
Then when called on it you admit to lying to get a honest answer?
You have more edited post than anyone else I know here but we are to believe you 100%?
Why don't you go read rule #7 of the SVTP rules.
Woah, after reading that my siding is starting to go on BBR. That's a lot of stuff in there.
So wait, his tranny broke after going to the track, or after the install?:rolling::??:
Yeah they offered to come to me because after a month at there shop installing a new motor these bolts fell out on the way home. I was working on my exhaust about a month after that changing out the h pipe and installing an x pipe because an H pipe was never suppose to be put on in the first place.
Vortech install beginning of OCT.
Motor let go the day before Thanksgiving
Got the car back right before Christmas.
Tranny started slipping about Feb, my guess.
Chris made a ton of tune changes cause it kept hitting the rev limiter in every gear.
1-2 shift commanded @ 6050
2-3 shift commanded @ 6500
3-4 shift commanded @ 6450
Still hit the rev limiter, so yes alot of changes were made. I would guess the 3-4 was hitiing everytime because the 3-4 clutches were bad.
I went to PBH to change the tranny fluid to see how it looked and thats when I found out it was fried. Chunks at the bottom of the pan. I called Steve he was like oh well, and he said they can pull it out and send it to Circle D. They dont work on Transmissions. That was my final straw with BBR.
Fast forward to today...Tranny fixed now, JMS tuned and the car is running and shifting perfect.
Actually 2 bolts fell out on the expressway and 1 more about a minute later making a left turn off the expressway. The pic shows 2 cause thats what I texted Chris to see what they were for. When they fell out they made quite a noise where I looked at my wife and said WTF was that.
I told them not to come to me cause I was like a 1/4 mile away from my brothers house. We went back and walked the expressway and found them, put them back it and tightened em. Thats it.
yea after putting it all together your not honest enough for me to believe what you say. could it of been bbr fault maybe, could it of been you jumping tuners in between all of this maybe. nothing adds up that you say, that and all of the edited post hiding info. only thing that makes sense is bbr slipped up on the packaging paper and didnt add modifier to the rear gear.
Just so people know I have never dealt with bbr before, the closest encounter i have with them is my buddy turbo 2012 is tuned by them.
Just so people know I have never dealt with bbr before, the closest encounter i have with them is my buddy turbo 2012 is tuned by them.
I'm not trying to rescue anyone, Only pointing out inconsistencies that need to be addressed.
I have no doubt both are partly responsible. It is almost always the case.
BBR already openly acknowledged they made mistakes.
At least they made some attempt to correct them.
On another note, I always get a chuckle out of guys wanting a 10sec "Street" car at full weight and then get mad when it breaks.
Fast/Reliable= Pick 1
For the same money I'll have a "Street" car in the garage and a gutted 10 second track toy.
(Motor popped? Well I'll buy that although damage pics would be nice.
Tranny? I have a hard time with.Not trying to sell you )
Not trying to sell you anything STAMPEDE3.....
PLEASE re read the title . BBR...So frustrated with them... Time to vent!...... Key word being VENT. NOT DEBATE. I am by no means trying convince anyone to believe any part of my story. I told you an account of my own personal experiences. Thats it. If you want to doubt them, thats your option. I just wish I read an article like this BEFORE I decided to go to BBR. I would of chose a different, more professional, and knowledgeable shop, and saved alot of time, money and hassle.
I mean like I said before, I couldn't of gotten a worse experience. Some people have had success with BBR, some not. Choose what you want to believe and make your own decisions. I mean if you are ordering lower control arms from BBR and you got a great deal and fast shipping, praise them. But I've been through alot with them, To much bad and not much good. I was warned before about BBRand I didn't listen to them, hence suffered to consequences.
Make your own decisions and choose your shops carefully. Im Done.
Agreed boon lololol
Listen man, there's always going to be guys who are shop loyalists and there's always going to be guys who are shop-haters.
People are going to want some sort of military log-style series of events to prove your case in the forum of public opinion. Honestly, I don't write down every issue, time, date, grid location when there's a problem.
There's no excuse for some of this stuff. Especially letting you leave with a car running so poorly.
And venting is fine.
I have no issue with venting.
But your vent says things that are maybe not 100% accurate and pretty much make direct statements and/or accusations that could possibly sway someone elses decision.
That also would not be fair.
I'm also done.
I hope anyway.
I don't what you thread you are reading but if you read the entire thread he has stuck to his story and BBR changed or omitted a couple of facts along the way read the entire thread no I won't cut and paste it for you. I don't know the op from anywhere but he has video, pictures, and fellow forum member backing his story. I own my own business not automotive but very customer service heavy and the op has demonstrated a good amount of evidence of bad work along with very poor at best follow up. Tune revisions that vendor wants to complain about might because of a bad tune and not a finckey customer. Read the thread especially where bbr trashes him then look at his original post and it was cherry picked to look bad. One example is when the motor was replaced then the customer leaves shop that day and losses three out four bolts almost dropping his transmission on the highway. BBR wants to blame customer for fing with exhaust for cause????? Read you will see
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